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Jim Willie On The Plan To Save The Republic Part 2

6/27/2020

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Sean Morgan  00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus, get the free ebook at Q and on faq.com. I'm with you because you know, this whole channel is about Q. And so you know, q has been very clear that some of the things that are going to be happening are going to involve voter ID, they're going to involve auditing politicians and their families to reduce corruption, term limits, things like that, that completely are going to change the corrupt landscape politically. And of course Q is very specific about the type of satanic satanic child trafficking related crap that's involved with the deep state so I'm totally with you on who the good guys are who the bad guys are in general, and obviously, the bad guys want to do maximum damage to humanity. The good guys want to keep us all alive. Keep us all happy. Give Our liberty, have us be able to have money and prosperity. So what does that look like in a nuts and bolts kind of way? As far as what kind of currency Are we going to have? You know, what is it backed by all that? Is there going to be debt cancellation? Yeah, we're gonna be like
 
Jim Willie  01:20
I defined the white hats in the Patriots, but I did not get a chance to define the globalists. It's not just the central bankers. It's not just the big banks who operate under the wing of the central bankers, because the big banks are not just the United States, big banks or big British banks and the big Western European banks. And there might be a couple of big Japanese banks that all fall into that category. I regard the dark side the globalists the fascist that they're trying to impose the New World Order. We haven't heard that title for a while. But I remember in 2015 Vice President Biden at the US Air Force Academy commencement speech for graduation went on for quite a while about the New World Order and the morons in the clot in the crown crowd. We're giving him applause. Okay, the rest of the evil side the globalist fascist cabal. It's a big pharma. It's the American Medical Association and in other words is the Rockefeller medical pharma complex, which he tainted beyond repair. I could go on for an hour about how it's all been corrupted and pretty much ruined. We need 10 years to straighten out the Medical Association. The news media is part of this. And not the entire news media. The social media networks are part of this. And I believe all of them are and there's one element that's hardly ever mentioned in the in the Alternative Press this part of the globalist cabal, and it's now becoming clearer and clearer. It's the big Telecom carriers who are installing the 5g. The 5g transmissions, I think are the it's kind of like the Black Swan it swims in and infects everything. And then you get the lung infections. And then you get it diagnosed as Corona when it's really just fluid in the lungs from the burning incident from the five g radiation. And then before you know it, you got a new Corona case, but it's not really Corona. It's infected lung fluid. Okay, and it could be what's called now, pulmonary thrombosis. It's an eruption of the capillaries and blood vessels in the lung region. Right. Okay, so you got all that? What do they want? What is coming? What is the goal on the positive side? Or to throw a lot of these people into prison, give them military tribunals have them decide whether it's lethal injection or not like with McCain? There's a good question about whether Obama is alive. I've seen a lot of different photos recently that the Obama seen in public does not have a scar right here and has a different group of black freckles. In other words, we might be looking at a double have Obama. Okay, this is a very complicated and Weird Science. I believe Hillary died on 911 last year or two years ago. I think Hillary's gone. No, no, wait a minute. That's that's back in 2016. I think she'd been gone for a while. The new Hillary, notice that she looks 30 years younger. Does that bring about any questions? You people? Are you aware? Can you notice that she looks 3035 years younger, or are you just asleep? between the ears? Okay, what do they looking for? We're looking for a new dollar structure. And I think it's going to be a combination of a digital dollar a digital Yuan. You know, Chinese currency, a digital euro, maybe a digital yen. And at the same time the underpinning of this digital currency system, which will be gold backed, the underpinning will include a lot of debt, a lot of new sovereign debt. Because we're not going to get around the debt. We're not we're not gonna be able to start a new system say, well, we don't have any debt. No, there will be debt, but it will be. It will be in what's the word, it will be entrenched and embedded within the blockchain. Let me give you a quick story I heard about in 2005, something called Mrs. The mortgage electronic registry system. And it was basically a title registry that included the title name, the property name, the bank involved with the loan and the owner of the mortgage. The person It got all corrupted to hell, like you would not believe they were using. They had the organization there, but they abused the organization in the title database to use one particular title in multiple mortgage bonds. Okay, they had the system perfectly in place to prevent that. But the managers of it, Wall Street decided to defraud it and take advantage of it and then get bailed out with TARP funds at the end of their crime Skeen. Okay, so Wall Street has a long history of criminal behavior. They converted a lot of their investor lawsuits into a cost of doing business, a new secondary stock issuance. It's just amazing what they got away with, but they did have about 240 billion dollars in restitution payments. But, you know, they had about four or 5 trillion in profits. So that's about 5%
 
Sean Morgan  07:00
Good pay off.
 
Jim Willie  07:00
Yeah, good pay off anyway. We're hoping to get a new currency system that's digital. And I honestly believe it's just gonna wipe out Bitcoin. Golly, I get a lot of queries about what's going on with Bitcoin. Well, two years ago, I said, well get ready for a nice 70% decline. Oh, Jim, you're crazy. You're crazy. Well, no, we got us 80% 78% decline in Bitcoin. Okay. In the last couple, two or three months, we've had another decline in Bitcoin. It's been a powerful decline. Anyone who thinks it's gonna be a center of anything has got rocks in his head. There will be some real big advantages out here to a cerium. And there will be I think, I think there's going to be a resurrection of veritasium with Reggie Middleton. He got slammed for no criminal charges had a settlement for no criminal charges, paid out enormous amount of money for no criminal charges. And we're getting given permission to start a new, but if he gets too big again, they might repeat the same thing that they just did throw him into jail, shut down his business, no criminal charges, and then force a workout for no criminal charges. And if you're not understanding the point that I'm trying to make is that there were no criminal charges. Okay, we're going to see digital money coming. What I'm finding
 
Sean Morgan  08:24
back 100% buy gold and debts or no, no, no,
 
Jim Willie  08:30
no, no, I did not say would be bad, but that's going to be embedded within it. What do you mean by that? embedded in the blockchain? I didn't say it was embedded in the basis for the money. There'll be debt for, say, the nation of France. There'll be debt, and there'll be some sovereign debt backed by the good faith and, well, I don't think there is any good faith
 
Sean Morgan  08:50
in the same system that we have now where you have debt and it's the same promise to pay,
 
Jim Willie  08:56
same promise to pay but it's gonna be structured within the blockchain different Fried
 
Sean Morgan  09:01
Rice right okay for example, but you're thinking 100% Gold backing for the currency.
 
Jim Willie  09:07
The great majority, there could be a lot of features that we don't know about. It could be a cover clause. It could be a 10% backing by gold. Now when you when you talk about a cover clay gets complex Shawn it gets very complex. You could say it's completely backed by gold. But the redeemable amount for you the individual is 10% of what you're holding. That's called a cover clause. Which means you can have 10 times as much money as you have gold. We're going to see a gigantic move in the gold price and the silver price. Silver will be second gold will be first gold will be the monetary standard behind the new digital currency system. And following that, in a matter of months, there will be a declaration that silver is going to be the technology standard not a by metallic monetary servers can be a technology standard because the new industries coming out and the new patents and the new free energy systems and all kinds of new technology. The great majority of them have a silver basis, because it's got unique features. I'm not talking about just true reaction to light for photographic things and, and the the the characteristics that make it great for solar panels. I'm talking about, you know, two prominent isotopes. And here's something that just just to try to wrap your head around the frequencies for silver, and one of the main isotopes is very much similar to the human frequencies of brainwaves. Just think about that for a minute. Okay, so there are a lot of applications coming. It's going to be a release of technology, that can be a reindustrialization of America. What I'm excited by is going to be the honesty of money. There's going to be a difficult transition where a lot of honest money they're being called the prosperity funds that transition funds. Quite dragons are going to be involved in there. The white dragons for instance, are a very good element they're angry as hell, that the globalists have wrecked many parts of the US I'm sorry many parts of planet Earth. They don't like the harp instance for causing hurricanes. They don't like the the fomented volcanoes. They don't like the chem trails, which I could talk about for an hour. They don't like the the ruin of the North Pacific with the Fukushima which is going to become a major story soon. Who did it? The answer is the Vatican and Papa Bush, the Vatican and pop a bush. The Vatican is not a religious institution. It's a bank with a storefront that they call river Religious and a bunch of Cardinals sit in the window. Okay, there's going to be a lot of activity by the white dragons to help clean things up. And to give you a perspective on their wealth, they own the voice confirm this, he said Jim is between 110 and 120,000 tons of gold. Now convert that to dollars present day. It's like seven or $8 trillion. The prosperity funds for managing the transition from old to new like Like for instance, your father might have a $1.5 million estate, and he's not in good health. So what's going to happen at four with that fund for your inheritance with your brothers and sisters, the old system passing wealth to the new system is going to be complex. I'm hearing that there are a lot of legitimate funds that are going to assist in the transition while funny money maintains in an uplifting fashion the stock index and the bond values. Notice all the fallen angels now corporations that have gone from triple B to junk because their business has gone to hell. I used to help with a purpose. It's gone to hell because the satanist globalist fascist cabal has sent it to hell. A lot of unemployed people because their jobs have gone to hell, by the globalist their hand. The businesses have gone to hell, I got some really wacky news this weekend a friend of mine in Los Angeles is is ordered to keep his stores close for 12 more weeks. So he said Jim, I'm facing bankruptcy. My competitors like the big boxes, Walmart, Target, some of the clothing big stores, they're, they're open. So what's going on all the money so what's Going On what? What we've got is an attack on small business, right under the facade of a pandemic, which is fake. There's been a, there's been a public action taken against the governor of California using their Supreme Court to prove there's no pandemic, that the total number of pulmonary meaning lung related pulmonary viral infections and their deaths is no greater than a year ago. So there's no pandemic. So open economy, what are you doing? It's becoming more and more clear that the governor's typically the blue states, the democrats states, they have a motive to wreck their economies. And what blame blame it all on Trump and see lots of dead people? I mean, this is not the America I know. And I'm a patriot.
 
Sean Morgan  14:51
Yeah, and I'm with you. I mean, I feel confident that the white hats I wasn't really aware of the white dragons as you described them, but I wasn't aware of the fact that the military and the executive branch and the military are taking steps to to keep the economy alive for example the huge injection of funds into the small business you know through the SBA grossly inadequate
 
Jim Willie  15:15
though, Shawn
 
Sean Morgan  15:18
well I'm guessing it's not the end of I don't get any required
 
Jim Willie  15:23
I got nothing I've got a working address. No I living outside the United States. Okay, so I'm just saying don't get anything waver let me finish this. The aid individuals is grossly inadequate. The private workers like a carpenter a plumber electrician, a remodeling agent, remodeling you know fellow with the skills x pets we don't get anything. Nothing so it's not it's not your so are you employed aid okay. Lonely play dated? It's ridiculous. It's a show.
 
Sean Morgan  16:04
Yeah. Well, here's I don't think it's just for show. I think I think that, you know that, that puny little 1200 dollar check and all the SBA loans. It was just enough to keep things from crashing down.
 
Jim Willie  16:17
So and I disagree. I know people in California are still waiting for their SBA loans applied. Yes,
 
Sean Morgan  16:24
yes. I think that's the battle I battle. That's the battle that's going on right now, where you have, for example, I'm from Pennsylvania, and so you have people filing for unemployment, even independent contractors and so forth. And so then the state just automatically rejects them because they have a democratic governor. But in reality, these people do qualify, and eventually they will get the money and the people have already gotten their 1200
 
Jim Willie  16:52
pay for their funeral costs. Yeah,
 
Sean Morgan  16:54
to pay for their food to keep them to keep riding on the street or
 
Jim Willie  16:58
to starve. I don't think
 
Sean Morgan  17:02
I don't think people are starving in America. I think that things I think we've gotten the largest injection of funds into small business in the history of the country. And I don't think it's enough. I'm with you on that. It's not to say, I'm just saying that this is the first step, try to keep things alive, try to keep the economy from crashing try. Then, when we win the election, the executive branch is controlled by the white hats. And the Supreme Court is controlled by the White House and the whole Congress is controlled by the white hats, then we can really get things going. Is that what you believe? I
 
Jim Willie  17:34
hope so that's a good path, but how many will die along the way and starve to death? I know people who host I know people who are close to starving to death right now, a fellow who used to live with me in the 1990s outside Boston. He said Jim, I'm facing starvation next week. Next week. I have no job. I got a check. It's not enough. It's grossly inaccurate. It's not exactly I'm not being fair calling it just for show. It's a good face that attempt. That's not going to succeed. I know people are waiting for their small business aid, they don't get it yet. They're not getting it. The line is crazy and the big banks are administering it. So how much are they stealing? mean? Trump did not set up? Well, the Small Business aid, he put the big banks in charge. You need an intermediary who's effective and honest, and they're very few. So I think a lot of people are going to be starving to committing suicide, Shawn because they're about to starve to death. And they know it. So they're going to end up quickly rather than the pain of three weeks of I know, I have one Costa Rican friend who starved to death. And he did it kind of voluntarily. He dropped 80 pounds. He was a handsome six foot to 200 pound friend of mine. I'm not not gay friends. Just see a buddy my first friend here. He committed draw out suicide, he lost 80 pounds, he finally had a heart attack. People don't want to do that. We can set up all the well intentioned plans to help households and small businesses. And I would I would put up a rough number of 20 to 30% will not be touched, they won't be affected, they won't be helped. But that it's going to it's going to help a lot of people to be sure, but I think a lot of it is optical, as they say for show. Okay, I didn't get any check. My brother didn't get any check. He's working in a small business all by himself. He didn't get anything. He doesn't plan to get anything
 
Sean Morgan  19:39
if you make under $80,000 a year you get the 1200 dollars, which I know is not sufficient, but it's something to keep keep things going. And then I for one did actually apply for the small business loan and I qualify for $24,000 which is not a lot of money, but it's enough to to keep you going and or to start something new. So
 
Jim Willie  20:02
what happens if you fall on the loan?
 
Sean Morgan  20:07
I don't know. They're not gonna put me in jail. We don't have debtors prison, big
 
Jim Willie  20:09
banks, big banks for giving a gift. Why is yours alone?
 
Sean Morgan  20:15
Okay, I'm with you. I think this is a bailout for the big guys. Yes. It's the biggest stimulus we've ever gotten for for small business. And so I think it's thank God that that was passed. Thank God that it can get passed. Again. This this is not the end of stimulus for small business.
 
Jim Willie  20:35
I don't even like the name for stimulus for small business. What it is the handout for a business being destroyed by their governor. Right.
 
20:44
So so we
 
Sean Morgan  20:46
have a timeline here as I described, for real relief is the election. What's what are your thoughts?
 
Jim Willie  20:54
I think the timeline is the next two or three or four weeks for the food supply chain. It's in danger right now. We're not gonna last November without starvation deaths. So what do you think?
 
Sean Morgan  21:09
Do you think there has to be emergency legislation to to give people food aid? Is that what you're saying?
 
Jim Willie  21:14
I think we need to have emergency legislation to charge governors with sedition for remaining locked down without evidence of a pandemic sedition. And this is coming to a head Governor's mansions and change the ruling actions
 
Sean Morgan  21:33
ahead, because because you're right, those people do need to be held held accountable, and there needs to be public disclosure of their crimes. And so what Q has talked about over and over again, is this idea of the storm that there will be a time when there will be mass population awakening due to arrest due to these people being publicly held accountable for their crimes, so and so that would also give the government's a mandate to provide the type of relief you're talking about. So when people ask me, when is this going to happen? I always say, well, it has to happen before the election, because the the deep states is trying to do what they can to prevent the, you know, the election of Donald Trump. And so and so they're going to be releasing their assets, their weapons of information war and, and all the coordinated riding that is happening now is a good example of that. So there has to be a countermeasure in place. And so that countermeasure things like what I already described, like public public, you know, indictments, all the indictments being unsealed all of these governors and and various players being held accountable. And then once that happens, there will be a mandate for relief. So you're thinking this week cannot wait until the election this is going to be soon
 
Jim Willie  23:00
We've got starvation as an issue in the next month.
 
Sean Morgan  23:05
I know people will to me that means the storm happens in the next month because I think that's exactly how the timeline is coordinated.
 
Jim Willie  23:12
What? Yes, but we don't need. We don't need just more aid. We need aid and the forced opening of the economies. We need the commandeering of at least two or three major media networks, because they're engaged in lying propaganda and sedition. They favored all the Russian dossier stories, they favored all the impeachment stories. There wasn't a shred of basis for it. So they're not there on the side of the writers. Yeah, well, you know, I think there should be investigations of governors for bribery that they're receiving from narco money. I think that they should have their their their offices ransacked with with FBI investigators. I think many of the governor's starting with California Michigan should be replaced with the assistant Governor's and given warning. Here's what you must do. You must open the economy. There's no pandemic. Of course we have illnesses. We have sicknesses, but this is not pandemic level. You don't have, you know, what is it? It's less than, it's less than 1% fatality rate for Corona, you don't shut down a $13 trillion economy for less than a half a percent, a fifth of a percent in fatalities. Okay, let me give you an absurd comparison. You've got many more times, deaths count from malpractice by doctors. Should we quarantine all medical facilities? We've got a very high count of drug overdose and Miss application of prescriptions by doctors with Big Pharma. It's amazing Multiple of the corona deaths, should that mean that we should close down Big Pharma and all pharmacies and quarantine them?
 
Sean Morgan  25:09
Yeah, it's illogical. I'm hopeful that with the writing that's going on right now, it gives a mandate for the military to get involved because they're one of the few elements that you've mentioned that are actually not correct.
 
Jim Willie  25:22
I agree. I'd like to see them take control of MSNBC and CNN To start with, right take control their executive offices, put a few of them in prison. They've got charges on some of them already. With, like child trafficking and abuse like that. Have military do the news. For a month, see how things turn around. msnbc is a Microsoft organization that's a Bill Gates spread from their bad software to bad media. And now he's got bad health. Bad vaccines, everything he touches is bad. And let me remind people he never finished college you got a college dropout, trying to tell us what vaccine policy should be. Has he ever taken a course in biology? in genetics? I have has he? He was playing poker at Harvard. He never went to class. What's this guy's name claim to fame? Right. I mean, he needs to be put in prison. Right? He needs to be put in prison. And I've heard that they've got some sealed indictments on phousi. Look, I'm sorry to be a bit argumentative, but I don't know. The answer here.
 
Sean Morgan  26:41
There's a sense of there's an there's some sense of urgency and I was I was under the assumption that people had enough to get by until the election but from what you're describing, there's a there's a much higher sense of urgency just to keep society intact, keep the economy actually And so for what people can do who actually do have money besides helping yourself, your family and your neighbors, it sounds like you gave some good thoughts for them to consider regarding their finances as well today. So where can people go if they want to learn more about your financial perspective and get kind of the real time reaction to the news as it's unfolding?
 
Jim Willie  27:25
We, before I talk to my website, I got a comment. He had something like 6 million mortgages that are on the verge of going into default. That's not managing until November. If the banks want, they can throw them out of their houses, then they're living on the streets, and they don't have sufficient income to pay for food. I don't think countries have just delayed mortgage payments. They can delay them, but then oh, gosh, why don't they forgive them? Right. Okay, where can people go? Well, I've devoted the March, April and May not letter for the hat trick letter to be principally devoted to this fake pandemic, and the actual sicknesses, what they are and what they are not. And the economic effects and the stimulus and the, the just a tremendous abuse of monetary privilege. Ah, I've got that on www golden hyphen, jackass calm. I just finished the 16th year. I've been doing this for quite some time. The may issue was issue number 194. That's that's really a long, long time. Okay, on the website. It's it's new as of January 2019. We had a complete revamp reform revision and I'm very happy with it. on the site, there's a link to free articles and interviewers, if they're predominantly now interviews, I'm a little reluctant to put into print what I think scoring On it's a medical pharma global coup d'etat and that they're trying to wreck the economy as part of their coup d'etat takeover control where the President is basically your health minister. That's that's the new dictatorship. I saw an interesting sign the other day, I said, Okay, thank you. For the seven weeks of very expensive experiment toward communism, it's time to turn back to the Republic with liberty. Right. Okay. on my site. I've also got a subscription button for the hat trick letter. And that's a paid subscription service. It's not very expensive. It's for six months segments for subscriptions. It's the labor of love Sean I enjoy doing it. I gotta admit, though, the first day is a little bit difficult for starting a new monthly report because oh my gosh, oh my gosh, I got a lot of work to do. I I don't have the luxury of making a mistake. I got a lot of information to assimilate, but it always ends well, and I get good money. After a couple of days, it's it's a tough two week period. But that's the newsletter. I've also got a Donate button. Because I've had some difficulties here in Costa Rica with fraud, and criminality and bad construction and just a lot of misfortunes. It's not an unusual thing to happen in Costa Rica. I like to joke that their national sport is not soccer, football, it's fraud. It's all through the system. And I didn't have my eyes open for some things. I made some mistakes, but other things just seemed like purely demonic, like fires and car crashes and erupting septic tank, ridiculous crazy things. Okay, so there's the newsletter, there's the donate button. And there's also a consult button, which is getting used more and more. I had one yesterday with a couple in Canada and they were interested in how do they convert, for instance, how they convert the sale of a big asset recently. into gold and silver. What's the best way to do that? I had my suggestions we talked and completed the session that they paid for. They might have some more questions but okay, the website golden hyphen jackass comm has been around for a long time now. And the new one has been out for five kids 17 months. So got the subscription, got the consult, and I got the donate button. And I'm very grateful to several hundred people who've made donations small, medium, and large. And I gotta, I gotta say this, um, I was in a bad place almost a year ago. And I prayed to God and I prayed to Christ, to help me and to just put some angels in my path to give me a lifting hand. And I got it. And I'm very grateful to my god. I'm grateful to the angel I'm grateful to a couple of pastors who've helped me with you know, the counseling and uplifting spiritually. I appealed to group Shawn and I make no bones about it. The first group that I appeal to is the logical types. Who would say well Jimmy do good work I've been following you I don't mind making a $100 donation because I really never subscribed and I listened to your YouTubes and you know, good luck to you, I'm gonna help you out. But the other group is the spiritual types to Christians and, and others non Christians but spiritual think what you need some good vibrations here, or the Christians who say, you know, I've been helped in my life and I'm gonna help you now that was a fellow in Texas, and it was a big aid and you know who you are Kelly, and I, you know, it's just I'm very grateful for the help I've gotten. I need some more help because two wrongful deaths hit in court ordered with court orders last December. January just an enormous bill, I'm trying to work off the debt. So I'm going to, I'm going to do, you know, more ad campaigns for for the donations, but this crisis has brought about a lot of new interest in the newsletter. And I've gotten a lot of compliments for my coverage of the corona. I can't say that personal family and friends appreciate my hard work. But the few thousand followers and clients they do, and that actually means a little bit more to me because they know me better. They follow my work. We've got a lot of very confusing elements right now. And 5g transmissions needs more focus. Switzerland and Belgium have shut down their new 5g rollout. And there have to be questions why that is and I'll tell you One suppose a theory of mine, Switzerland and Belgium are satanic elite centers.
 
Sean Morgan  34:11
Yeah, that's not just you that who's figured that one out? There's a whole episode on edge of wonder about how Switzerland is the home of satanic elites. So I'm with you there.
 
Jim Willie  34:22
It's not just the Rothschilds in Zug, Switzerland. But the Belgians, it's just think of it as the European Union political center. The unelected fascists who are running the union. Well, in the May newsletter, I've got a lot of information. I'll tease it here about what's going to happen with the European Union, their political side and their monetary side, it's gonna they're gonna have some big, big changes, and I have some inside scoop inside word, and I'm very happy for my guy called Maxwell and Central Europe. He said, Don't use my real name. Okay, so he's Maxwell. Now. They said fine. That's Fine, but we've got to focus on things like how much has the California Governor received in bribery money from Narcos? Right. Okay, let's take a look at his financial accounts, and see if it's if it's interwoven with his policy to lock down. Let's see what his email conversations have been in California with with respect to big box retail competitors to small business, because right now, he's targeting for the kill small business in California. I don't think they're gonna make it to November. I don't know what's gonna happen in November with ballot stuffing. They might declare that the voting centers aren't safe. Right, and therefore you have to do written ballots and open open the door for voter fraud. This is going to get very weird very quickly.
 
Sean Morgan  35:52
Yeah, the timeline is certainly from our conversation today. I feel a much stronger sense of Earth. See, and a much stronger sense of anticipation that something will change soon regarding people being held accountable, because there's a disclosure that has to happen. There's a legal, legal thing that has to happen with a lot of people at a lot of different levels. And that's what he's been describing for a long time. And I was expecting it to happen before the election, but it looks like it might be sooner rather than later. So thank you for your, for your your you're just being open today and being honest about how you feel about everything. I appreciate that.
 
Jim Willie  36:33
I think we need not just the prosecution people held accountable, but I think there has to be some media commandeering.
 
Sean Morgan  36:40
Oh, absolutely. They're there at the top of my list for who needs held accountable?
 
Jim Willie  36:43
Well, you know, start with MSNBC and CNN and and try to prove the criminality and sedition within the executive ranks. The criminality is not with one or two types of crime. I think it's broad. So let's see what happens. I hope that The aid becomes much broader and more extensive. And some of the debt forgiveness hits the peep the public because we haven't had it. People are gonna lose cars and lose their home. They just delayed it. They didn't fix it. Okay, I'm with you, Jim. This is after 2008. Shawn, when a lot of people through fraud lost their homes from foreclosures.
 
Sean Morgan  37:23
Exactly. This is a long time coming.
 
Jim Willie  37:26
Yeah. Okay. Well, thanks. Pleasure.
 
Sean Morgan  37:30
Great to meet you, Jim. I really appreciate it my website. Yes, absolutely. I'm gonna put the link below so people can check out your website and your newsletter, and I really appreciate your time, Jim.
 
Jim Willie  37:40
Okay. Well, thanks for having me on. Thank you.
 
Sean Morgan  37:45
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Sean Morgan  00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus. Get the free ebook at Q and on faq.com. I'm here with Jim Willie. Jim, really enjoyed listening to a couple of your talks with Sgt report. You speak really well about financial markets and I respect your macro economic outlook. So would you mind just giving my audience a quick background so they understand where you're coming from?
 
Jim Willie  00:30
Sure. I have. Oh, gosh, I guess I guess about 20 to 23 years of career background in statistics, statistical analysis. The three areas were quality control, marketing, research and sales analysis and forecasting, which are three very big and important areas of statistical analysis practice. I did well in all three areas but my favorite by far was marketing research. I worked at Digital Equipment Corporation during the time where they were ranked number two behind IBM but ahead of Hewlett Packard. I worked at Staples at the headquarters in the late 90s. I worked later in a private consulting firm that offered me an opportunity to prepare for this newsletter. This newsletter was begun in 2004. It's been I just hit the 16th anniversary, which is kind of amazing. I have moved from age 52 to 68 and a social security recipient. But I like to say that I I am 68 I feel young 50s and a lot of people think I look like I'm in the late 50s and that's all very nice. Maybe they're shining my ass I don't know. But the newsletter has been a big success. And a lot of work a labor of love and I gotta say it it kind of changed me to the office because of the way things are set up with email responses and new orders set up I I avoid fraud in the login setup, you know the password, the user name, and and by doing so I have to be nearby. So I don't really go on vacations much. What I do is I have you know, sometimes a one or two day I know exactly trip but like an excursion where I go and visit somebody and I come back the next day and go on a trip to visit a volcano or Caldera or go to the beach and use the email at his condo at that sort of thing. So, it's been an interesting ride, Shawn. I've enjoyed this newsletter immensely. And I've had a lot of correct forecasts. It's always nice to hear people praise. You know, third party praise for my work. But I gotta tell you a climax hit last Oh, I don't know, maybe July, August, September, October, November, I had about 15 correct forecasts all hit. And it was about the D dollarization. The Infinite QE and realization that the treasury bond is reaching its end. I caught the sunset or the demise. The foreign nations in particular the Asians were doing their d dollarization. Which is a nice way of saying treasury bond dumping. Why were they doing that? Well, they saw the end. The Skidmore report from the University of Michigan Michigan State University On the $22 trillion missing, I think, created a final call to dump the dollar internationally. And the news really just was not properly absorbed inside the United States or even in Canada. The bulk of my client bases United States and Canada, but there's still a good 20% that's outside North America. But the the climax of correct forecasts kind of shocked me in a positive way. But what it did at the other end was to convince me we got some really troublesome times coming. And that really hit in September in October, when the repo market went out of control. And for those who aren't too familiar, the repo market is the repurchase window for the Fed where, for example, Citi group would be short on cash. And they'd have a billion dollars in short term treasuries. And they take it to the Fed window and say we need some cash, we need a 24 hour loan. Well, that quickly became 48 hours and became one week and became delays and and eventually roll it over roll it over. So the 24 hour nature of the repo market became kind of a joke and became a broken feature. And to me that was the initial initial stage of infinite QE. Infinite QE has many sides you think of you know, QE quantitative easing, very strange name given for hyper monetary inflation. They're printing money to cover our debt. Now, when Zimbabwe did that, we were highly critical of them. When we do that. We call it advanced financial engineering. What keeps
 
Sean Morgan  06:01
everything from the house of cars from falling down?
 
Jim Willie  06:04
The continued money printing and continued monetization of debt? If you keep printing, okay, the acceleration began to happen in September and I thought, Okay, here we go. This is infinite QE, it's kicking in. What does that mean? Well, it means that they just produce several hundred billion in a week or two or three and covered some of the Treasury demands. Like let's just say South Korea wanted to dump a bunch of treasuries. Well, what are you going to do allow that to send the treasury bond yield up to 5% in three days, because there are other nations doing the same thing. So what prevented it from falling all apart was the continued printing of money to cover debt and to cover debt redemption, and to and it expanded it got much more dangerous and expensive, when in early November, it was quite evident. To those who are watching, which is not the majority of people, most most people are busy with their lives. And when they do watch the financial markets, they basically watch the bond yield. And they watch the stock indexes and they watch their perfect portfolio. And they pay very little attention to things like the repo market, which announced in late October, early November, that they were going to cover a lot of hedge fund activity. And I got it on good authority, insider word that what the Fed was doing was they were telling the hedge funds, which are largely extensions of the Wall Street banks. They're like, individual companies that take credit from say, Morgan Stanley, or Citi group, have an office in their building or nearby and have a VP supervisor from Citi group and they just go about their business. Well, what they were doing was doing bond swaps. They were buying treasury bonds and shorting the interest rate swap derivative, which is an abstract Ruth's exotics sort of thing to do that most people don't understand. It took me honestly a couple weeks to understand what exactly they're doing. They're buying Treasury, but what's on the other end, and they were minimizing their risk by by hedging against the interest rate swap derivative. It blew up, Shawn, it blew up. And the Fed said, We don't care who owns the asset. And we don't care if it's impaired. We'll buy it. And I thought, this is a new level of infinite QE. It's an infinite QE, during a massive default, a massive collapse. Okay, so a lot of things happened in last fall. And they were all bad events.
 
Sean Morgan  08:57
And then and then Corona. How Right, and then there's a pandemic, and then they shut down the entire global society. So it seems like that would just expand.
 
Jim Willie  09:07
But I refuse to call it a pandemic. I call it a fake pandemic, pandemic. us call it a pandemic. Anyone who calls it a pandemic does not know what's going on. I think you're just you know, making a comment. But anyone who doesn't understand the fraud behind this is missing a tremendous amount. I like to link the financial markets and the Treasury debt to this fake pandemic. They realized that the big banks were going to fail. The boys did the globalists did. So they created a problem in order to have a guaranteed forced mature and a guaranteed multi trillion dollar stimulus. stimulus is a nice word How about bailout? How about cover over the toxic hole? have put a lid on the vat of impaired and toxic and worthless debt, which now features what I'd call the global subprime bond. And that's the treasury bond. Okay, back in, oh 706 and oh eight. We talked a lot about the mortgage subprime bonds. Well, we didn't learn anything from the layman incident, except that JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs killed Lehman and blamed them for much of the problem when goldman sachs and JP Morgan, were doing the exact same thing on a bigger scale. Okay, I don't want to get into the whole crime scene of the layman incident but it was and the perpetrators the criminals were JP Morgan and Goldman Sachs. It's so bad that I've had about 20 incidents in it. And it happened again just a month ago, where someone tried to make an order for the Hetrick letter from the east coast. And couldn't get the transaction approved because it was a chase bank card. And I said, Well don't expect JPMorgan Chase to honor your transaction. I put them as target number one for criminality and fraud. It's happened 20 times. I said, just use another bank card that he did, and it worked right away, so that they know who I am. Okay, so, now this pandemic, this fake event, which is actually no worse than SARS was in 2009. And which now features at total, a total count of pulmonary viral infections, which include, I guess, tuberculosis, pneumonia and Corona etc, and SARS, the total count is less than last year. So whereas the pandemic, to call it a pandemic, they need to label everything as true Rona, I just had a
 
Sean Morgan  12:02
need to fudge the numbers. I'm totally with you there. So in fall, things were bad. Then they shut down the global economy, the globalists knew that all of this was coming down the chute. They're like purposely trying to bring everything crashing down. Where are they putting their money? What is their playbook? And is there any kind of countermeasure going on?
 
Jim Willie  12:23
I think the globalists secretly are buying hard asset properties and gold and silver.
 
Sean Morgan  12:30
I mean, why is the price still so suppressed? I'm wondering,
 
Jim Willie  12:34
because it's not. It's not managed by the physical market. Maybe it's really amazingly simple. Suppose I want the television market to be managed in price by something that I set up with paper slips, and I can sell paper slips without delivering on the television. You would say that's ridiculous. You got to deliver on the tower. division? Well, gee, it's been 25 years. Oh no, it's been 35 years, since they were even permitting in the COMEX by orders. It's a sell only market. So you've got corrupt futures paper contracts that don't have delivery. And then something happened about a year and a half ago Sean's enormously important and has brought about what I believe will be the final collapse of the COMEX market and an lbma, the London bullion Market Association. They had the fraudulent sell contracts where they would sell I'll just make up something but it's very much akin to what has happened. I in a two hour period, they would sell eight months worth of global mine output for the gold market and no consequences with the CFTC. The commissioners are regular There are no consequences. No delivery involved, just all paper we call toilet paper. And that whole false fake, fraudulent paper selling required something on the other end to deliver and close it out. I'll give you an example. Suppose a year ago, you shorted IBM. And you managed to get the shares from your broker and you sold them into the market. And it was credited, again are debited against your account. And then months later, here we are, I'll just I'm just gonna make up numbers. IBM is now you know, 17% lower and you buy it back now. Okay, that's an honest broker activity. You shorted it, you use borrowed shares, you sold it, and you covered it with the purchase with your actual money. you close it out, you made a profit? Well, the gold market is very different. It has paper shorts that don't have any basis or connection to the physical, physical market. And what they did starting about a year ago, year and a half ago, I think it was late 2018 or so, London started what they call the exchange for physical. And what they did was they created a false and phony paper based delivery system to match the false and phony sell side to complete the transaction. And they got caught, they got exposed, they thought they're going to get away with it. But what expose them was the exchange for physical in London ended up having, you know, on a given month, it would have twice the annual gold mine output for volume. So it attracted a lot of attentions, and now they've got lawsuits, and I've got it on very good authority from a client Central Europe, who works extensively within this market and elsewhere? He told me the two months ago the comic broke. It is now broken, it is now a dead entity with open doors. Okay? Now if you've got a dead body, let's just say your uncle dies, he has a heart attack you living alone, and the doors remain open, what happens inside, it starts to stink. That's what's happening in the comics now it's starting to stink. And what happened is two of the major players society general and Scotiabank. And I think there's some more in there, but I don't have their names. They've exited the comics as active members, because they had huge losses, and it stinks from the dead bodies in there. There are lawsuits involved and we're going to be hearing about it in the near future. Sure What actually happened? But can you ask why? Why is the price so suppressed, because they're continuing to use the paper system to keep the price down. Okay, I'm gonna make
 
Sean Morgan  17:12
them want to keep the price down so that they can buy it all up and then eventually, they kind of have a monopoly on it and then it can be really priced in and then once again, they have a lot of power and control through through that money. I'm guessing
 
Jim Willie  17:27
that's close, but when you say they want the price down so they can buy it cheap. That's not the case. They want the price down so that you lose interest in demand that you don't care about buying anymore. Well, you start to say along with all of your your your fellow people who follow the the monetary fraud. Oh gosh, you know, I'd really like to buy some gold and silver but there's nothing around. So I'm not going to buy any I think I'll buy some stocks, or I think I'll buy an exchange traded fund. Okay. Here's what's the reality, these are approximate numbers. To sell silver through the system, you get about 15 bucks and change 15. Plus, if you want to buy it, you got to use their price which is 15 and a little higher, plus a 20 or 30% premium to get the actual metal. Now 30% premium is another $5 that's actually low. It's about a 40% premium. It's about 15 by 23. Now, if you look at the US Mint before they temporarily shut down under the current fake, cause they actually said that they didn't want their workers to contract the virus okay. That's interesting. It's it's bullshit and a lie but that's interesting. what they wanted to do is interrupt the supply so that you'd lose your your demand interest. I don't mean interest like on alone. I mean, your curiosity and And your desire to buy. Okay, so what what is now guaranteed the moonshot? I believe in the next several months, maybe couple months, we're going to get past the 1900. barrier for the gold price. I think it's going to be motivated by two very important points. Well, maybe three. The first is that the money being printed for stimulus a calling it stimulus, but it's really big bank welfare. I mean, they've got the personal payroll protection for a measly 2000 goes to individuals, but they got trillions that go to the banks. So it's I give one unit to a person and give a million units to the bank. And what are the banks doing with it? Well, they're covering their bad loans, their bad debt, but also they're covering their fraud. big way. The second big factor is that the treasury bonds are now looking more and more likely to enter a default before long. Okay, that's pretty big. And the third thing is that we're looking at a new monetary system right around the corner, and it's guaranteed to have $1 found a I'm sorry, I have a gold foundation.
 
Sean Morgan  20:21
Okay, so So let's talk about the players involved because you talked about the boys, the globalist, the the big bankers and so forth. And there seems to be what's going on with the plan demick with the coordinated rioting, the just the media is in on it. It seems like there's a connection with China and the Democrats. I'm just mentioning some some players here that that and their playbook seems to be make Trump look bad, try to crash the economy. And then who's on the other side of that have that playbook who wants to keep the economy alive who wants The American people for example, if we're going to focus on America, who doesn't want the whole thing to come crashing down? You know, are there any good guys in this story?
 
Jim Willie  21:12
Well, the plenty of good guys. The problem is that the bad guys have a lot of narco money behind them. The bad guys, the bad calm the bad team, the evil, the evil team, the bad team, the dark side, the globalist cabal, let's just call it the globalist the globalist cabal, the banker, cabal, the globalists. Okay, the banker cabal, they own the central banks, and they're getting pushed aside because the Federal Reserve was taken under control by the Department of Treasury at the end of their contract recently. I mean, like two or three months ago, okay, who are the players I call they're called the white hats are called the Patriots are called the good guys. Whatever you want. I I prefer to call them the Patriots or the white hats. Okay. The white hats do not have The they don't have narco money behind this. I gotta mention narco money before I answer your question on who the good guys are. Langley has been running a narcotics global monopoly now for many, many, many, many, many years. The climax for production came in 2003 false cause attack of Afghanistan, the unspoken motive member, does anybody remember what we claimed to be the reason for going into Afghanistan? Because Osama bin Laden and his caves and the Taliban were behind the World Trade Center attack. Allow me to barf and have diarrhea on the table if you don't mind. Okay, the other official good reason given by Condoleezza Rice, the NSA director for baby Bush administration was We're gonna build an oil pipeline through Afghanistan hit it through south through Pakistan. Gee, whatever happened to that plan? The plan was to take control of the majority of the Taliban 20 tribes and establish a global monopoly for heroin. And it was worth between 812 hundred billion dollars a year and the dumbest Americans were were giving approval to the funding for the military to be involved there, where they covered the costs. And Langley established the NATO bases for distribution centers for the Afghan heroine I refer specifically to Incirlik base in Turkey. To on siano, gosh ariano on siano. Whoo, are we on any Italian bass close to that name. Let's just call it on siano and Rammstein and Germany. Okay, those three bases were the primary narcotics distribution centers. I have a client whose father is that Ramsay Rammstein and Germany and he said, You are 100% on siano on siano base in Italy. You're 100% correct about Rammstein. And he actually said to me that the slowdown in the narco movement has had had an effect on the parts supply to aircraft at Ramstein. Okay, so the Narcos in the banker cabal, I believe are bribing smaller countries and their health ministers to keep this lockdown going. Now, who are the white hats who are the good guys and the Patriots? Okay, so large element of the US military is A majority of the cabinet for Trump, he has to buy. Gosh, I don't know how to describe this. Well, he needs to keep a couple neo cons on his cabinet in order to placate the evil side that's close to him. And to keep a close eye on them. I referred to Jared Kushner, who's got the Middle East counsel. I referred to pump pale I refer to Oh gosh, what was his name? Bolton. Some of these people have have left Mnuchin he's got one foot in the pond one foot out of the pond. He lied to his teeth about what he saw in Fort Knox two years ago. It was laughable. Fort Knox contains 8500 tons of tungsten bars with gold cover. They're called gold clad They're about to three millimeters thick of gold. And they're easily 98 99% tungsten, which sells for $70 a tonne. Okay, so who are the white hats? Who are the Patriots? It's the good element of the US military who support the constitution and wish to restore the Republic. Okay, the principal elements of the US military that is running things for Trump is what's called the America first organization. They're the 500 generals and admirals that Clinton, baby Bush and Obama fired because they were not loyal to the Narcos. They were dismissed. It's a long, long story. But I learned for instance, way back in 2015, that there was a group of dismissed generals, several hundred of them, maybe three or 400 of them, who met every year in Idaho. At a ranch and had a conference, they call themselves America first organization. Yeah. Or club. So when Trump had his inauguration speech in January of 17, and mentioned America first approximately 15 times, I figured and I did so correctly, that the America first group of retired generals have a major role behind the scenes. I don't want to get into all that. Let's just say they have a role. Now, in addition to that, you've got the Defense Intelligence, which I believe is the, the major ringleader of the different groups of security agencies. You have the US Naval Intelligence. And the other intelligence group there about seven of them may were like a gaggle of independent security agencies. Some of them are corrupt. I would say most of them are corrupt and some of them are not I've been corrected by somebody in the know, said, Jim, they're all corrupt. And I say Well, yeah, but the least corrupt is Defense Intelligence and Naval Intelligence. The Coast Guard is corrupt DEA drug enforcement corrupt. I got stories from personal former friend who said that the reagan yacht was loaded with two tons of cocaine. Every time it went through the Panama Canal coming from Colombia, the crime, the fraud, the cocaine running, the narco business is gigantic. Okay, so you've got defense, intelligence and Naval Intelligence there on the good team. You've got the Interpol some called the super fraud, super fraud division. Serious Fraud division is their actual name. They're involved on the good side. And then you've got some unusual members to play a key role and our new Not without serious wealth. I refer to the white dragons of China. Now that's a that's a group that I would say 99% of Americans don't know anything about. There's a group of old old societies in China. And they have a lot of money to just think of the United States were 250 year old country or continent. We had 100 years of colonies before that with some slavery. So we've got a bunch of icons who are multimillionaires, and we call it the Forbes list. The Forbes list never contained Papa bush. Well, gosh, he was worth 4 trillion why wasn't on the list? Because it's 4 trillion was from narco trafficking was CIA cover. Okay, I don't want to get into a lot of detail. I've said enough about that. And
 
Sean Morgan  29:57
I know what I'm interested in Figuring out because you've already kind of defined the white hats and the black hats. And it seems pretty clear that the black hats want to destroy the economy to cause as much wreckage and negativity in the financial markets and institute a new financial era where they get to control the currencies in a new format. So what do the white hats want? What is their financial plan?
 
Jim Willie  30:29
The black hats want more than that. They want a lot of death. They're looking to reduce the human population by at least 50%. And they've got conferences where they actually talk about 80% and 90%. So they want they want to ruin the supply chain. They want to ruin the food chain. They want to ruin the water supply system. And here's a little number two, keep in your head. 1% unemployment in the United States typically translate To 40,000 dead. We've had a gigantic rise in attempted suicides and completed suicides, drug overdoses, etc. So, the evil side the banker, cabal, the globalists, they want to see population reduction. And one of their final steps toward that is the forced vaccine. The forced vaccine will contain a cocktail of viruses, some of them deadly, they won't all be the same mean they might include meningitis and SARS. The virus might include Ebola might include a lot of things, but not for everybody. It'll be kind of a random roulette. Well, are you red? Or are you black? Or maybe are you red or are you blue for the twos types of states? Okay, the white ads, what do they want? They want to prevent this. They don't want to see, say the United States States go from from 330 million, even down to 250 million. That's 80 million dead. Are you kidding me? That means your personally will know a couple people are dead. I know right now one person who's dead extension of my family, you know, just a relative he's dead. got into an argument about whether it was Corona or not. I left out a lot of details, but I made myself a pest and I upset some people in my extended family and I, I care at a certain level but I don't care from a logical factual level, like on a on a waterfront. Okay, on a waterfront You don't have to be polite on a waterfront you're trying to help people to survive on a waterfront. You don't have all the niceties like oh, pardon me, excuse me. I don't wish to upset your feelings here. But what I'm trying to say is your friend was killed. He didn't just die He was killed. Was he given the screening test? A week before he died, or do you not care? I don't care about niceties. We're on the waterfront here. I'm on a war footing here. The good guys want to prevent the mass deaths. They want to prevent the ruin of the economy. The good guys want to prevent the supply chain destruction.
 
Sean Morgan  33:19
But what is the one
 
Jim Willie  33:21
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Sean Morgan  00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus. Get the free ebook at Q anon faq.com. Okay, I'm here with Charles Eisenstein. Charles, I've been a big fan of your writing for a long time we're from the same hometown in Pennsylvania. And I really love sacred economics. Just the way that you helped people envision in a very balanced way how humanity could look at economics and and that type of kind of how that issue of economics and money is at the center of the the ego and the interplay, interpersonal journey, as well as the society journey that we're going through, and the choices are making. So I just wanted to say that first of all, I really love that that book, and that if you could just do a quick intro of who you are and Maybe that recurring theme that you touched on in that book and all your other books of the new story in the old story. All right.
 
Charles Eisenstein  01:09
Okay, yeah, I'm, I mean, I'm a writer, basically. And then I began to do a lot of public speaking as well. And now I've kind of well, until COVID, I was doing more public speaking, than anything else. Now, actually, I'm doing. I just am doing a lot of public speaking because I'm doing it on podcasts and things like that. So the everything that I speak and write about is basically an application of a conceptual tool that I that I use to understand the world. And it's not only a conceptual tool, it's also become an embodied tool, but basically Understanding that we are in a time of transition from an old story of separation into a new story of inter connection, interdependency, inter being, where we're not understanding ourselves as separate individuals in a world of other. And so my work is basically It examines how our current civilization is built on the story of separation. how that story generates crises, that intensify with time, offering humanity, a initiation or a birthing into a new story. And it's really an ancient story, not really a new story, but for civilization, it would be new. And then I apply that lens to different topics like you mentioned economics. So how does the existing money system embody a story of separation and propel a story of separation, putting us into competition with each other into a world of scarcity necessitating endless growth. That's another part of the old story is is the conquest of nature separation from nature. And, yeah, apply to medicine or education or politics or technology, science, spirituality. And just identify what unifies all of the crises that face us today. So that's the that's the subject. You asked me to say that and then it makes it seem like this, this really abstract thing
 
Sean Morgan  03:48
you mentioned embodied. So how do you think that that can get kind of get grounded a little bit more?
 
Charles Eisenstein  03:53
Yeah, well, I mean, these stories, these narratives, I mean, these are desert even say mythologies. These aren't just like some idea you get in your head. They're part of a state of being. They are attracted to someone who has had a certain experience of life. Like, for example, if you've grown up in a market economy, or you've been subjected to schooling that is at Foster's competition. And if you've grown up in a modern environment where you don't really know, the people around you very well, in your neighborhood, you don't know. You look outside and you see a tree you don't even maybe know the trees name or certainly what medicine its roots are used for. If you've grown up that way, then then the extent then the story of you being a separate individual, in a world of competitors, makes a lot of sense. Sure. And that experience variants have been cut off. It's not just an idea, but it's an experience of alienation. So that that's the that's one aspect of the embodied part of the stories.
 
Sean Morgan  05:12
Yes, I guess in the eastern lens that would be kind of like living in the illusion of my or whatever. But let's talk about the challenge and the conflict that's going on for humanity right now. Because you wrote an article, something about the coronation related to Coronavirus. And then you had a follow up, I think probably, I'm guessing as a reaction to other people's reactions. And usually this is the way it is when you talk about something that's interesting. You'll have one side that thinks you've gone too far and other side thinks you haven't gone far enough. And so can you tell me about what the coronation article is about? And I know that's hard to summarize, because it was a monster of an essay. But then how how people reacted to it.
 
Charles Eisenstein  06:04
Yeah. As you know, we're living in a very polarized time. Where where any news? This is what I'm seeing, like any news that comes up about Coronavirus if it supports the narrative that, that a certain group of people like, then they will easily embrace that. And if it does not support it, they'll just attack it, attack the source attack the platform that that puts it up, you know, attack the credentials of the, of the scientists who brought out the study. I mean, it's just it's vicious out there. So in that situation, if you put something out that doesn't fit either side's narrative then Both sides will think you're on the other side. So that's it's been really odd. Like I'm, I'm a lifelong leftist. And I put this article out that might lead one to question many aspects of the official version of the pandemic that we are offered by the health authorities in the political authorities. So that all of a sudden, I'm a right wing conspiracy theorist. And I'm lecturing to them, right. Yeah. And I'm like, hold on when, Since when is questioning authority right wing thought that was supposed to
 
Sean Morgan  07:36
question and then your recent article, the conspiracy myth, really specifically addresses that accusation. And you talk about some specific things in the history of the United States of how the CIA has infiltrated leftist groups and activist groups and victimized inner city, communities and things like that, to prove that Point.
 
Charles Eisenstein  08:01
Yeah, I mean, usually it's it's the left that suffers from government conspiracies. I mean, from iran contra, and its relation to running drugs into the inner cities to cointelpro which infiltrate the civil rights movement and stirred up trouble. Same thing to the environmental movement. The weapons of mass destruction hoax. I mean, there's been a lot of actual conspiracies that are that are well documented, and not even that controversy, you know, so all of a sudden now it's those who believe themselves to be on the left, that are in joining us to trust the CDC to trust Big Pharma, to trust the political establishment, to trust the intelligence agencies. I mean, this this is it's it's a it's like left and right have been They haven't actually flipped that they've like just both kind of dissolved. And in the group that's left there there there is this emerging populism I think that defies left right categories.
 
Sean Morgan  09:18
And that sounds like it would relate to your work and talking about that process of conflict and transformation right that the probably the left and right paradigms and polarities were not healthy or serving anyone and so now there's like a storming and forming type of thing that's going on to redefine reality for everyone.
 
Charles Eisenstein  09:39
Yeah, they left and right as we have known them were a product of their times and the times are changing environment is changing, although I still think that that certain ways of analyzing society are still valid.
 
Sean Morgan  09:59
Still, you Use the term I've been a lifelong leftist. And so do you think that now that's not even a relevant term to use anymore for yourself? Or are you just gonna say, Hey, we
 
Charles Eisenstein  10:08
know, what does it mean? What does it mean to be a leftist? It's not like a feature of objective reality, right it is, that word only has any meaning in relation to various social discourses. So, right. Like the left means those who say that they are on the left. I still and that, you know, there are traditions that have say, Marxist analysis, for example, the critique of colonialism, the understanding of how the economic system generates inequality and oppression by culturalism multiculturalism Yeah. Right. The critique of have what is now called white supremacy but but is that that's actually like an outgrowth of a of the post colonial narrative. I don't know like this. This is getting super, like, theoretically political. I don't know if we want to go there. Now I could go, okay, but as well, yeah, yeah, yeah,
 
Sean Morgan  11:17
it's okay. You know, the the response to the coronation article, kind of had you do a follow up article called the conspiracy myth. And in that, you talked about how there are real conspiracies, which we already mentioned a couple of real ones. And that even the ones that may not be 100%, verified, or maybe they're just plain, not objectively true. They still have value in the form of a myth to kind of understand things. So can you explain that concept?
 
Charles Eisenstein  11:49
Yeah. So in the article, I say What say? Yeah, they're definitely conspiracies. But what about the idea that conspiracy explains the world That society is in the grips of an evil cabal of you know 13 bloodline families etc etc I don't know how familiar you are with these but crazy yeah so there's like a whole universe of like it's an extremely elaborate narrative historically narrative yeah it's it's, it's, it goes into you know it could be that that reptilian reptilian extraterrestrials are involved in it demonic entities the occult, like it's a whole thing that is what I name is a myth, which doesn't mean that it is a fantasy or a delusion. It doesn't mean that it's literally true, of course. But it doesn't mean that it's not true either. What I'm saying is that it is a vehicle for truth. It gives narrative form to unconscious truths that we may not otherwise recognize. And there are other forms you could give to those to those truths. So one of the truths being the idea that that an unfriendly power is in charge of the world and in human power is in charge of the world. Now, the conspiracy myth says yes, and that inhuman power is this, you know, 13 evil bloodlines or something, right. Another myth might say, this in human power is capitalism. Yeah. patriarchy. That is that is pulling our egos. Yeah. Right. We're, I would say it's the story of separation. Right. So another truth that that rides on this myth is that those who seem that they have power are not actually as powerful as we think that They're they are highly constrained in what they can do. Could it so it could be because they're receiving their orders from this nefarious hidden group. But it could be because the systems themselves conspire to limit. It's like, if you're save the leader of a country, and you say enough of austerity, you know, I'm gonna pay people their pensions and protect our natural resources. Well, it's not necessarily that that your case officer from the paraphilia Elite is going to call you up and say, Sorry, you can't do that. What happens if you try to do that is that the bond market revolts capital flees the country your currency crashes, like that you get punished without any one person trying to punish you because there
 
Sean Morgan  14:59
are systems idle norms and like infrastructure to our institutions that contribute to these conspiracies happening without conspirators. Right. And you talked about some examples of that of some scientists who just chose without any kind of direction from others to do certain things as opposed to others that ended up looking like conspiracy even though it wasn't.
 
Charles Eisenstein  15:23
Yeah, this happens all the time in science, you know, like, like, an example would be the decades long idea, the paradigm that heart disease is caused by dietary cholesterol that an entire research industry grew up around that. And it turns out it was not true. But for decades, it looked like it was true. If and it kind of perpetuated itself. If you wanted to get published if you wanted funding. If you want an academic promotion. You know, you would contribute to that narrative. And if you came up with something that contradicted that your research would it would receive intense scrutiny. And you'd have to you know, fight the the intellectual culture to even get that published. So, it so the system conspired Now there were financial interests involved. The sugar industry, for example. But I don't think that that that they conspired to create this entire paradigm. There might have been opportunistically participating in it. So that's how I think usually conspiracies work. But not always. Yeah, sometimes
 
Sean Morgan  16:48
there actually is direct coordination or a hierarchy involved. A really important documentary this year has been out of shadows, where they point out From the birth of media in the United States that there have been CIA and other governmental entities actually embedded within those institutions in Hollywood in the press. We've had project Mockingbird in the 70s. And some have said that that has never stopped that there are still covert agents of the CIA embedded in the various press organizations. Yeah, certainly now we see a consolidation of corporate media. You have people like Jeff Bezos, who own the Washington Post, you know, and arguably the most important political newspaper in the country is controlled by a billionaire, who we've all buy our products from during the pandemic. So there's just it's truth is stranger than fiction when you look at that situation, and so people who are looking at that situation and wondering, hey, is the Washington Post's getting their talking points directly from an oligarch?
 
Charles Eisenstein  18:09
Right or indirectly from an oligarch? Right, you know, maybe it's just that you kind of know like, we are socially attuned to get along with our tribe to curry favor with the powerful to display the correct opinions that are approved of by our in groups. You know, we're really sensitive to what's the right thing to say, what's the right behavior to display? So you, you know, work at the Washington Post or the New York Times like you tune into that, you know, and you know, what is acceptable and what isn't acceptable. There's a whole culture that Jeff Bezos or Bill Gates you know our participants in as well. They themselves I believe I think I don't know much about Jeff Bezos. But I know quite a bit about Bill Gates, you know, like he, as far as I can tell, he fully believes in the myth that technology is going to save the world. Technology is going to make the world a better place. He has a crusading belief in that. So when he embraces and promotes problematic technologies that are causing harm in the world, that doesn't mean that he is a nefarious evil to her, that he's wicked be trying to harm people for his own greed. He, I think that he's enamored of this myth. And so people, he's going to surround himself with people who are enamored of this myth as well. They're going to come to him, he's going to resonate with them. He's going to fund organizations that believe that and so a conspiracy is thereby created, of which he himself is a tool. It's as if like this being recruits human beings to create itself. And that makes it a lot better.
 
Sean Morgan  20:12
And one of the deepest part of that essay was about how there's a co creation that occurs between our beliefs and reality. In co construction, it was kind of hard to to word that just now maybe you could clarify it.
 
Charles Eisenstein  20:27
Yeah. You know, you know, one of the one of the critiques of the coronation was that, um, you know, I'm a relativist, that I'm like, yeah, this narrative can be true, that narrative can be true. But come on, Charles, there's an objective truth out there, isn't there. I don't think matters are that simple. Oh, and so they thought that I must be new agey and saying that our beliefs create our reality. It's not that simple, either. It's not that our beliefs create our reality. It's that belief in reality create each other. And that there's an intimate connection between the two. There's an intimate connection between the story we tell the world and the way that the world appears to us. Sometimes the world surprises us and doesn't fit into our stories. Like, and and we run across, we encounter situations that violently contradict our beliefs. And it's it can be devastating, like that happens. So any metaphysics that you're advancing, has to explain those things, too. So what but what I can say is that, that the stories I mean, just in a very mundane way, the story that we call money has certainly impacted the physical world. Money is a belief, it is an agreement, nothing more. Those those hundred dollar bills, you know, those, those account statements that you get electronically Those are those are symbols, those are ultimately zeros and ones in computers. Yet our story about those things, has laid waste to vast areas of the planet and invigorated billions of people. So you can't say that our stories in our beliefs and our agreements don't change reality there, right? Yeah. And then and then you get into you can also so that's kind of a mundane example. But when you get into some of the fringes of of science, and those things that have been excluded from science, then you come across all kinds of phenomena that that point to, could be a mind body connection, it could be a mind world connection. Things are not as they seem or they are not as as we have been told. Which is one To the energies that feeds into conspiracy, it's that there's something they're not telling us something that that runs the world, that they're not telling us like something really important aspect of reality that's being hidden from us. That's not being recognized. I think that is an authentic intuition. And it can take the form of a conspiracy theory.
 
Sean Morgan  23:26
Right. Yes. So, to get to an important point of that essay, which is that or this whole discussion that there is going to be conflict that when when you have a belief system, and and there are people in power, who are perpetuating and then people who are subservient to them who are perpetuating it through these social norms, and then we're all trying to make each other feel comfortable. And yet there's this inherent, especially now, during this crisis, there's an inherent conflict, where there's a mainstream media narrative. That you got to wear the mask, you know, close down your business. You don't visit with your relatives, you don't visit with the old people, you don't touch the old people, you don't touch each other, that the children are social distancing. They're not playing with each other. And then there are the people who just feel and think that that's completely insane. And they react against it. But at the same time, they want to make their neighbors happy. They want to make their friends on Facebook happy. They don't want to offend anyone else. And so, but at the same time, there is that feeling that their sovereignty is being violated and they need to stand up and they need to fight against that. And so we see that with people covering up for other people, like for example, we're both familiar with State College, Pennsylvania, and there was a coach there who was kind of a part of this hierarchy of power and he he owned a charitable organization for children. And it turns out he He was just sexually molesting boys for years and people knew about it and they didn't do anything about it and they didn't say anything about it. And and the whole community just perpetuated this power structure. And so there's a conspiracy without anyone you know, from the top down saying, Hey, this is how it's gonna go. You actually had normal everyday people covering up pedophilia. So what this is one of the ways that I reacted in part, I know that that you are not like responsible for like standing up for all of humanity right now and their rights. But at the same time, I wondered if you were trying to keep people from criticizing you. You were trying to keep people in in that comfort zone. Like, don't worry, I'm not saying that Bill Gates is, you know, in charge of some kind of nefarious thing. vaccinate you with mandatory vaccines and right even though the governor of California saying we can't open up the state until we have mandatory vaccines, so there is a mandatory vaccine agenda, and it might affect us in real life, and if people who are writing about this subject don't actually show that that's real, and the threats to our sovereignty are real, that we won't stand up for it. And so we're all just keeping each other comfortable and you're subservient. Right? So
 
Charles Eisenstein  26:28
I'm really what the what both essays are doing, they're calling for critical thinking. I think that if people engage their critical thinking, examine their assumptions, look for look outside their own echo chamber and really give a listen to the best spokespeople for for opposite views. Then we will move closer and closer to the truth. So you If so how so that that's, I'm more interested in the truth than in being right. Or in crusading for what I believe is true. So I have my opinions on vaccines. I have my opinions on 5g. I have my opinions on glyphosate. I have my opinions on all of these things on, on whether masks work on whether lockdown was justified medically and epidemiologically. justified. I've got my opinions on those things. And I recognize them as opinions.
 
Sean Morgan  27:35
And they probably all make you right wing now.
 
Charles Eisenstein  27:39
Yeah, I mean, this is a whole new thing. I mean, it used to be the hippies, that were skeptical of pesticides and vaccines and wanted to homeschool their kids, you know, tune in, turn on, drop out. Like that was the hippies that was the left and who protested war. So it is quite, quite chaotic right now politically, anyway. So yeah, I have my opinions on these things. Some of them I'm quite certain about some of them I'm not so sure about like, I don't know, the mind of Bill Gates, really. I hesitate to say he wants this when he hasn't said that he wants it. But I do think that if people are truly open minded, they're going to come to a lot of the same conclusions I do. I just think that that's
 
Sean Morgan  28:36
so you might even be more effective by being less heavy handed.
 
Charles Eisenstein  28:40
Yeah, because if you assault somebody beliefs with a direct assault, taking your own studies, to duel with their studies, to try to overcome them with your superior evidence, and reasoning abilities. It doesn't work the If anyone's identity is associated with their beliefs, they will take that as a personal assault, they will feel violated and outraged. And they will go running to their protector, the pundit or the authority that articulates their beliefs, and they're going to, they're gonna go to them to make sense of Zack bush or Thomas Cowen, or you know, Christiane Northrup, they're not going to actually listen to those people. So what I'm saying is, is let's not be so sure that we're right here. Let's, let's take a look. Let's gather all of the data points.
 
Sean Morgan  29:46
But yeah, it can look very much like I'm afraid to take a stand. It can seem like that and I'm not saying it is. But at some point the rubber hits the road and you have to say either I am going to wear a mask or I'm not going to wear a mask. I am going to take a backseat I'm not going to take a vaccine, I am going to allow this in my community or I'm going to stand up and say what's right or wrong. Just an example, someone wrote to me today that they live in a town of 200 people in rural Colorado, and their child cannot go to the public park because it's closed down. And then they go to the like, they're 200 people, they all know each other. And then they go to the sheriff and they talk to the sheriff, hey, why is the park closed? And he says, Well, I'm getting this direction from the state. And then they just follow the command and all goes to these people who are really really far away, who really have nothing to do with their little town of 200 people and what, what those 200 people really want to do with their lives. And so I wrote back to them and I just said, Hey, you know, it sounds like your group of 200 people need to decide for yourself what to do in your own town. And that might involve civil disobedience. It might involve, you know, using the court system and fighting back or whatever. There are lots of different ways to go about it. But I can understand that your role as a writer isn't necessarily to crusade and everything but at the same time if we, if we stay so gentle with people who have differing beliefs that trample all over our rights, that that could be a slippery slope of passivity. Do you think about that?
 
Charles Eisenstein  31:17
No, I think it's true. I think that I'm looking at it as a kind of an ecosystem of dissent. where, like, sir in the in the conspiracy myth, I am linking to Zack Bush, Christiane Northrup, David Katz, Lissa Rankin can remember who else Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and, like if they weren't doing their work, I wouldn't be able to be doing this work.
 
Sean Morgan  31:55
Right. And different roles to play.
 
Charles Eisenstein  31:58
Yeah. I'm trying to Um, speak to those who are maybe? Like, I think, okay, so I'm trying to speak to a lot of people, um some of them are ones who have been unsure about things who maybe have like a doubt stirring? Who can be invited to look at these alternative perspectives? And then some of them might be people who are, you know, already fully on board with those things. And then I want them to question their reality too, because I think that the conspiracy myth is ultimately quite damaging and it's actually orthodox. It agrees with the basic solution template of find the bad thing and destroy it to make the world a better place. That is where the conventional response to COVID has come from. Right. When the war against bad spirit. This this virus same mentality as when the war on terrorism by killing the terrorists drugs or whatever when the war on drugs by locking up the drug dealers and penalizing those who use it, it's like this, this mentality of control and a lot of the conspiracy people are coming from a place of resisting totalitarian control. Yet on a psychological like on an on a mythic level, they themselves are validating control as the primary change technology and they're diagnosing the problem in terms that lend itself to other versions of control. So I'm what I want is for, like what is outside of that paradigm, what happens when you acknowledge the the possibility for conspiracies to self organize for conspiracy See what looks like conspiracy to be an emergent process, an emergent process? property of systems? Then where's the bad boy?
 
Sean Morgan  34:11
Yeah, well, there are. And that's where it gets kind of complex, because we already talked about how the reality and our beliefs co construct. So you actually do have bad actors who create bad institutions, which creates social norms. And then they all emergent Lee co creates ad infinitum. And, and so it's not saying that there aren't bad actors at the top of these hierarchies, right. You're not you're not saying yeah,
 
Charles Eisenstein  34:38
I'm not. There might very well be a world controlling conspiracy. And if we're going to investigate that, let's be clear on what is driving our investigation. Is Is it these coded truths that are coming out in the form of a story or is it the actual evidence, because what I see in the conspiracy world, which I'm You know, quite I wouldn't say like involved in it, but I monitor it, you know, I watch it. And not in a patronizing way, but when I see a lot of is, you know, they'll take an interview with Bill Gates, you know, they'll take one little clip and they'll amplify that. Because it fits their narrative. Yeah, solely, I see a lot of data filtration, data, cherry picking and dairy selection, just like the mainstream does, right? exclude anything that challenges the narrative. You know, what about Japan, which has approximately the same number of COVID cases and deaths as Rhode Island. Like, how do you fit that into your narrative? Okay, like they didn't even lock down. You know, if it's an inconvenient data point, you just ignore it. You know, it must have been this and you have some ad hoc explanation that doesn't, isn't really satisfying. I mean, Tony, it was pretty crowded. You know, it was given place in the world. Yeah, like, I mean, come on, like why?
 
Sean Morgan  36:08
Right, and something that people should be asking.
 
Charles Eisenstein  36:11
Yeah, there's a lot of questions that are not being asked because they disturb the narrative. And this isn't only, I mean, this is everywhere, all sides are doing this. So I have not found a narrative that satisfies me right now. And I've looked into everything. And I think that that willingness to not know that that's what allows us to move toward the truth.
 
Sean Morgan  36:44
So I agree that humility and that that pursuit of the truth and the willingness to try to jump out of the confirmation bias, look at the other opposite sources. And just keep an open mind for a while but at the same time, like you also said in the article, it doesn't mean you don't act on the internet. You have you don't have to get super passive just because you're being a relativist and, and everything. What about the billions of people in the world who read the Bible and the Quran, and the Jewish people, the Christian people, the Islamic people who are reading these books, and there is a story, it's an important story, perhaps the most important story about in the case of Judaism, which is the root of the other two religions I mentioned. There are 12 bloodlines. And Jesus is a part of one of those bloodlines. And it's a positive bloodline chosen by God, and that there is an opposite of that side of goodness of a force that may have their own little story of their own 13 bloodlines and they have their own religion, their own practices that involve This is all throughout the Bible. Of course, drinking blood You know, sacrificing babies and all of these things. So, this has been documented for thousands of years that there is this narrative of evil people who are evil people who have these practices. And so what do you have to say about that? Because you talked about the demiurge and Gnosticism and stuff, but it's not just them that believe in evil entity, right? Yeah, it's really Yeah. Go religions, right. Um, you can go,
 
Charles Eisenstein  38:29
you can go down this rabbit hole, and, you know, start finding evidence for a Luciferian cult that you can't prove that it rules the world. But, you know, there's a lot of people in positions of power that seem to be doing these kinds of things. And, somehow or other. This is another thing that's just not deeply looked at in Conventional media somehow or other human traffic ring, human, human trafficking rings are thriving. You can't do that without having some connections to political authorities. Yeah. So there's
 
Sean Morgan  39:20
state sponsored human trafficking.
 
Charles Eisenstein  39:23
Yeah. So So. Yeah, you know, it gets hard to pin it down.
 
Sean Morgan  39:33
Just like their state sponsored, you know, drug trafficking with Afghanistan and everything. Right.
 
Charles Eisenstein  39:38
Yeah. I mean, there's definitely some state sponsored, then, you know, you get into the issue of is this, like, what aspect of the state is doing this? Right? What? Because the state is not monolithic either. One thing though, that that I've noticed, and I mentioned this in the essay Is that I said that deep faith or deep paranoia tends to produce the results that confirm it, produce the experiences that confirm it. Right. I had a weird little thing happened once I was in a Uber basically getting driven to the airport was a ride service actually wasn't an Uber. And the guy was like a full on right wing conspiracy theorist, you know, he was telling me about how he had been on this getting recruited for Hillary Clinton's hit squad, you know, and like it was like, listening, you know. And then, like, at the peak of that, the red and blue lights flash and we get pulled over and Like the cop comes up and, and, and the driver is extremely polite like obsequious because he's ex military or whatever he you know, he's like, you know, he hands the cop his driver's license is this he is if he was serving tea to the Emperor, you know? And the cop basically says, Oh, yeah, you had like, one of your tail lights was flashing or something like that. It was like some minor little thing, you know. But it was just it was as if, like this other reality in which every conversation is monitored. And, you know, like, it this, like our cell phone was listening to our conversation, it alerted Big brother who then sent a cop to pull us over. Like, I could see how a paranoid mind could easily put these data points together. And it just seems so compelling that said, whether or Not conspiracy is the ruling power of the world. I do think that there's a lot we haven't been told about. Certainly the Kennedy assassination. I mean that you don't have to dig that deeply to,
 
Sean Morgan  42:17
or maybe Jeffrey Epstein and all the people who we thought commit suicide.
 
Charles Eisenstein  42:22
Right? I mean, there's there's there's a lot of stories that haven't been told the question. So when I when I, you know, apprehend these these Luciferian world cabal myths. I like to wield it as a lens and ask, what does that reality that that perceptual lens because that's what a myth does, it conditions our perceptions. It allows us to see things that are not visible without that lens. So I'm like, Okay, what can I see through this lens rather than asking, Is it provable or not? What can I see from this lens? And what can't I see? Like, what becomes irrelevant? That my heart tells me is actually important? What does it obliterate? And that doesn't mean that it is right or wrong, but it it, it, it can be useful. And then I also asked, Who do I become when I wear this lens? Because a State of Belief is a state of being the way that we perceive the world mirrors who we're being and and so, so trying on different mythological lenses on the world is also a path of self exploration. And I can say that
 
Sean Morgan  43:54
it's an intellectual practice, perhaps even a spiritual practice. Yeah,
 
Charles Eisenstein  43:57
I can say that. That there's Something that I that does not resonate with me, which is about on a deep level about conspiracy theories, which is the powerlessness that invites. Right. That does not resonate as spiritually true to me. Absolutely.
 
Sean Morgan  44:20
Yeah. I'm with you there. 100%. So I think there's some kind of synthesis occurring where people are able to recognize that there are people in power who don't have their best interests in mind, but that doesn't mean that we're powerless to do anything about it. And that those people who are working against us, just due to social norms, they're not our enemies. They're our brothers and sisters that we have to be, you know, compassionate with.
 
Charles Eisenstein  44:48
Yeah. Also. I don't think that we can really understand conspiracy theory This whole new world order of myth and hold on to objective reality. The mind so so the real mythology of our time that unites, as I was saying before unites the mainstream and conspiracy theories, generally, is the myth of separation. Part of that myth is an objective reality outside of ourselves from which we are separate. Therefore, we can perform scientific experiments that are repeatable, we can isolate variables, we can isolate the variable of the experimenter from the experiment. We can assume, though, that that actually is not possible with quite some mechanics and everything. Right, so that the mind of separation thinks that it's either true or false that You know, 13 bloodlines control the world, the mind of separation thinks it is either true or false, that there is a hidden history going back to Atlantis and Lemuria. And an advanced civilization that thrived before the last before the end of the last ice age. And let's find out if it's true or false. So, you know, take up artifacts, you do archaeology, and you try to prove Which one of you is right. Well, what if there? What if so, there's another way to look at it is that multiple timelines and multiple current realities exist as if in a quantum superposition of states, right? And that whichever one you align with, spiritually, emotionally and intellectually, that's the one that you see more and more of, right, except sometimes, quantum tunneling happens One of these other timelines bursts into our own. And so some some random event that just doesn't fit your narrative it like it happens, like you get some data point. And it's like, whoa, whoa, that is weird. We just got pulled over, or what was the one that was coming to mind? Well, there's like this whole
 
Sean Morgan  47:33
you could see a UFO or an alien or something that doesn't fit your whole narrative of reality. Right.
 
Charles Eisenstein  47:42
Yeah, or, you know, the Clinton Foundation was supporting this whatever that was doing human trafficking, you know, or like some little like outburst from another
 
Sean Morgan  47:53
glitch in the matrix. Yeah.
 
Charles Eisenstein  47:55
Yeah. So so I think that that when these things happen They're worth paying attention to just like a glitch in the matrix. uncertainties uncomfortable for us, for us humans. And there's a strong tendency when an existing certainty dissolves, to want to rush to another one and not spend the time in between. So, you know, your conventional reality dissolves. And so you leap into a conspiracy theory. Okay. Now I know this was wrong, but this is right. But what if? And I'm not saying like, never believe anything. But I'm asking. And this actually gets back to your earlier question like, asking us to reflect more on why we believe what we believe why we exclude data points that don't fit our narrative. What would happen if we let them all in? Initially, it would intensify the uncertainty. But perhaps in the end, we would at least be able to weave a story that includes all of these data points. I had a conversation with an older relative one time, who was profoundly affected by the Kennedy by john F. Kennedy's assassination. It was like a defining event of his life. And I was like, Look, it wasn't a lone gunman, you know, look. Two weeks before there was an assassination attempt in Chicago by another group, and their car was registered to Lee Harvey Oswald, like, this is this was I laid out a little bit of evidence and he's like, stop. If that if what you're saying is true, that would mean that everything I've believed about politics is false. And I just don't want to go there. Like what would so it's it is it is traumatic, actually.
 
Sean Morgan  49:59
Oh, it's Super traumatic, I think that's what's happening with humanity is a massive event just like what you just described with someone saying, stop, stop, stop, but they can't stop the information from going past that hand. And it goes in their mind and it has to go in there and storm and create that chaos. And I'm hoping that there are enough compassionate people around, that. They're able to bring them through that, that trauma, through that initiation, as you described it, and on to the other side of, of healing and integrating, integrating all these different realities into their new reality. And in to bring it back to to the Bible because I think that's a story that's so important, where there is kind of a split and timelines and realities for different beings, and it's like a new heaven and a new earth and everything that was old passed away. And so it seems like the people who were righteous experienced a new heaven and a new earth and people who are unrighteous go to another dimension of suffering for justice. Just another way of wording, you know, that kind of end story and the beginning of a new one. So that resonated a lot for me what you said about different timelines and how we can experience different realities.
 
Charles Eisenstein  51:12
Mm hmm. And so yeah, so you're naming another myth, if you call it a biblical myth that takes a truth and translates it into a story. And what one thing that the Bible does, at least as conventionally understood, is that it translates heaven into something that is an afterlife, and hell into something that has an afterlife, when in fact, I think that these archetypal realms interpenetrate our own lives. Absolutely. And, yeah,
 
Sean Morgan  51:46
and it is interesting that Jesus said, The kingdom of heaven is at hand. He didn't say it's somewhere else.
 
Charles Eisenstein  51:52
Right? And in the Gospel of Thomas, which was censored from the Bible, he's much more explicit about that. You Like, if it's if heaven is above, then the birds would be closer than we are, you know, if it's in the ocean, the fish would be closer than we are. It's not. It's all ready here. That was the message. And and yeah, I could go on about that. But,
 
Sean Morgan  52:14
you know, this brings me to maybe what would be a nice wrap up point, which is that what we've been discussing mostly is how to think and believe about things. And they you said a way of thinking and believing is a state of being. But what about the other side of a way of being is also a way of thinking and believing so that there's a way of being in the world interacting in the world isn't always about thoughts and beliefs. And that if you can kind of orient yourself from that emotional, spiritual, somatic experience of reality, that that will actually construct a new belief thought system that's perhaps a lot less complex and a lot less
 
Charles Eisenstein  52:57
dominating and everything. beliefs are what we think they are. beliefs are not the same as opinions. opinions are just the most superficial level of belief. beliefs, therefore do not change through a clash of opinions. They change through usually through deeper experiences. And if you do look like you've changed somebody's opinion, that's probably because they were ready to change, not because you overcame them with your intellectual power. And so, beliefs like what are the kinds of experiences like it's much more important than to propagate those kinds of experiences that will shift people's beliefs toward a story of reunion, of healing of inner being. And those are things like acts of generosity, courage, kindness, compassion, humor, all of the things that that say in fact, life is not a war of each against all. In fact, the world isn't so good. In fact, we don't have to be in fear.
 
Sean Morgan  54:04
In fact, 99% of us just want to love each other and hang out and be cool with each other.
 
Charles Eisenstein  54:09
Yeah. Right. We're all in this together. That's what humor says. We're in this together.
 
Sean Morgan  54:15
Ironically, both sides of the information we're using the in it together meme to try to define and control the narrative, but I'm totally with you on the spiritual emotional way of perceiving that it doesn't have to be so so fascist and egotistical of dominating belief and evangelizing kind of thing. So, Charles, do you have any final thoughts? I think I've really appreciated your perspective on all this. And I think it'll help people kind of level up to like just another layer of thinking beyond what they're used to.
 
Charles Eisenstein  54:54
Yeah, I'm just curious, like, I don't know much about your audience or most people who listened to you are they Like, you know, generally speaking, anti lockdown anti vaccine like that kind of stuff or,
 
Sean Morgan  55:09
you know, it's really interesting because my channel was started because of I created some kind of beginner simplistic non opinionated observations about Q and on. And so it's like a beginner course and Q and offer people have no idea what it means but didn't necessarily want to get their information from the mainstream media. And so people who are open minded people who are completely new to this and they're not committed to any belief system about and, and so what I find is that when I talk about things like hydroxychloroquine, and lockdown and mass and things like that, they're not combative about it. They're just like, open minded to think about it. That's great.
 
Charles Eisenstein  55:51
Yeah, because, you know, again, I've got my opinions on these things. But what is going to make this world better. It's not people agreeing with my opinions. It's people doubting their own. Right. And then they might come to my opinions, but they might, I might come to theirs. Like I've really opened myself up to conventional virology and gone down that route, that route route. And I think that it has something to offer. And I'm like, How can this be married to Zack pushes views and Tom Collins views like what's the larger reality like that's that's an inquiry and that said you know sounds just like some philosophical game here. An acquaintance of mine named Pete Evans. He's a chef in Australia, celebrity chef, you know, and he has You know, came out he's on a radio program critical of vaccines and oh my god, like, you know, he got all these hit pieces written about him in the media, you know, which he's a funny guy. He is very, he's got quite a sense of humor. So he posted those to his own Facebook page, you know? And, and, you know, and so of course, it attracts a firestorm in the comments. And among the thousands of comments, there are literally hundreds of stories, like the one that just stuck in my mind. You know, I had a precocious son. He was into everything. We had to have gates all over the house because he was just a one man Wrecking Crew. And we took him for his vaccine at 18 months, and he got a horrible fever that night. And the next day, wouldn't talk wouldn't make eye contact and he never did again. He regressed and he's Guys, like, I'm not an anti vaxxer, I'm an X Factor. And I will never in the medical system, inject my children with anything ever again. And like, you know, when you look at, when you take a statistical view, you know, like the standard medical view, you can be like, well, that's just an anecdote. That's n equals one. You know, people get hysterical when something happens to their kids and so forth. Like, there's a story that can accommodate all of the data. But when you actually read it and talk to those people, it's like, something isn't right here. Yeah. And I want to say like, and this is like the final message I want to give to your listeners is that Yeah, like do embrace radical doubt, critical thinking, question your own biases. And also listen And trust your gut and your heart, which can recognize much better than your mind if there's something not quite right around here.
 
Sean Morgan  59:11
Right? That's one way to navigate reality, they usually won't let you down. Yeah. And the way I phrase it is just standing up for what you feel and believe is right, you know, in your heart. It's not necessarily like a belief system. It's what you're aligned with as your own personal truth and morality in that moment. And as long as you're not harming anyone else, such that kind of way of navigating reality usually won't let you down. But it's not easy when you have a bunch of people telling you what to do with your life. So you have to stand in your sovereignty, but you don't have to do it in a way. Yeah. And other thinking judges others,
 
Charles Eisenstein  59:51
you know, like this thing of like, you know, stand up for what's right, speak out, etc. I want to make Anything black and white? Like if I were in Spain in the 14th century? Would I speak out against the Inquisition? If the result were going to be that tortures would torture me in front of my family is being forced to watch? Like, would I actually and then they would i would i do it. Like let's make sure that we are in service to what I call the more beautiful world our hearts know as possible and not in service to being the hero, not in service to to demonstrate to ourselves that we're virtuous and righteous.
 
Sean Morgan  60:33
Yeah, I'm just what I'm trying to express here is that if people don't do what I'm saying, which is standing up for what is right for themselves, not like evangelizing other and telling other people what to do, but for their own personal sovereignty, that they will end up losing those rights and we collectively as a society will lose them. And that's, that's a scary place to be and going back to the story in psychology of the guy who was the pedophile and was violating the rights of children. And there were other adults around who just let it happen knew what was happening. And they didn't say anything, because of this Spanish Inquisition example. They didn't want anything to happen to them, and their families and their reputation and their source of money. So there is a sacrifice that has to occur. Someone has to do it. Maybe it's not the listener right now. Maybe they have another role to play. I like the role that you're playing, which is you're getting people to do critical thinking. You know, that's, that's part of the role that has to occur. Someone has to do it for this transition, a new story to occur. But I'm a bit concerned for our society that we could slip into losing what what we have now which is pretty precious. The ability to choose what goes into our bodies might my child's you know he's one years old, he never had anything injected in him. It was difficult to stand up to the medical professionals and tell them what I wanted for his body. And when he turns 18 or becomes his own mind, I'm gonna have to let go. And he's gonna have to choose what to do with his own body. And I'm gonna have to respect that. And I think that's really primal and integral to everything that's good and true in the world.
 
Charles Eisenstein  62:18
Yes. A right to choice. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I can say a lot about
 
Sean Morgan  62:22
that. But, but we're at the end of the show, but we should we should talk again in the future. All right. Great. Thanks so much. Sure. Yeah, thanks, john.
 
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Sean Morgan  00:00
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Dustin Nemos  00:34
Sure, Will people know me is, I guess one of the first cue tubers and one of the authors behind the queue and on bestseller queue and on an invitation to the Great Awakening, you can see I've got a poster of it with my cue lamp. And, you know, I still put out news on a daily basis over 3000 videos in three years and just fighting the digital soldier fight, I guess.
 
Sean Morgan  00:56
Very cool. You know, Q's been posting Today a lot of really potent messages. And the latest one is about a Washington Times article, where Australian researchers are identifying that this COVID-19 seems like a designer, you know, manipulated virus. So have you been following this closely? You know, is there anything you wanted to say about this particular topic?
 
Dustin Nemos  01:23
Well, I mean, a pattern is emerging. We saw this from India researchers where they found traces of SARS and HIV elements within this. And we've seen from others as well, where they're sort of calling foul on the way that this was made. And the fake news is countering with Well, clearly it's not you can look at it and see and that's all a conspiracy theory. But I use this in my news video, I want to briefly kind of maybe it's a good analogy. Imagine like a couple of blue Legos in a queue, or like a Rubik's cube and like, everything's the same color because my daughter's two and she's playing with blocks. All the time now. So it's that a let's play with blocks. So if somebody were to take an entirely blue cube and then switch out pieces with yellow blocks, you'd tell you could you could notice that, especially if there were multiple pieces in there. That's the way CRISPR DNA genetic manipulation kind of works. You can see it you can tell this was changed.
 
Sean Morgan  02:21
And he was changed in the exact places where they can have gain of function and be more deadly.
 
Dustin Nemos  02:26
That's the thing like this one wasn't changed with with CRISPR. It was that's why the fake news is trying to say it's a conspiracy theory. So it wasn't changed with that blue block analogy. It was actually changed more like the I like to use like teacup Chihuahuas or poodles, you know, the really tiny dogs. They weren't made with CRISPR. They were made through, you know, patient slow breeding processes, through controlled breeding and manipulated breathing. That's the way they used to do genetic modification, which is a natural process, but that's the way it seems that this virus will It was done. It was cultured over time so that it would become human targeting. It wasn't genetically modified with CRISPR. So it looked like it was somewhat more natural. But you can still see those other sort of genetic precursors, where it was targeting humans and now it's it's kind of a lab grown lab cultured. And it was intentional, just like the little teacup poodles and stuff, you know, that wasn't right.
 
Sean Morgan  03:24
I've heard the number I forget where I heard it exactly. But the for this type of mutation to occur naturally would have taken many many, many many years. And so it's just unbelievable that this has happened so fast after the last SARS
 
Dustin Nemos  03:43
I I'm just speculating, I'm sorry to interrupt but knowing what I know of China in the way that they organ harvest, Christians and dissenters and things like that, and they're brutally tyrannical and they have very little value in human life. I really wonder if they were experimented on Humans to get to this result, you know, because this was sort of specifically bred to target human DNA. We know that now. So sorry to interrupt.
 
Sean Morgan  04:10
No, that's that's a good point. So another post from Q today is about Planned Parenthood officials admitting under oath that they were selling aborted body parts. And I know when the big video came out of undercover people in that boardroom, where they're discussing this very thing, the video came out and somehow the mainstream media tried to spin it and it actually worked like the public did not awaken to this. They just kind of use that whole conspiracy theory. Shut off your brain don't question it. tactic, and Snopes and all of the fact checkers went out there and had their little story about it. But now it's really impossible to deny what are your What are your thoughts about how this this part of the story the narrative connects to everything else?
 
Dustin Nemos  05:00
You know, I mean Q has warned us about this. We've even seen some of the darker cue posts that go into the graphic nature and even images behind the scenes where they were keeping these babies alive as long as possible so that they could have a fresh harvest. And it's it's a dark topic, I don't want to make people you know, sick to think about it. I don't want to go there too far. But it gets dark. And all you have to do to prove it to yourself is go to the local Planned Parenthood and follow those trucks when they leave with those packages. I mean, it's it's kind of obvious and it's on an industrial level. So, you know, this is one of those many evils that are clothed under good they they that's how they get away with they always mask it under good. It's a organ harvesting front and they say that it's about women's health.
 
Sean Morgan  05:42
So that's during during the lockdown. Almost no businesses are allowed to be open except for a couple of big box retailers and Planned Parenthood. Do you think that's a coincidence?
 
Dustin Nemos  05:54
In the the pot shops, the liquor stores, the gay sex clubs Apparently that was one of the articles I had read it quite a few places where and, and of course, the governor in Illinois had a exemptions given for construction crews to go onto his estates to work. But of course, you can't have anything else done on any of those other construction sites. So, it you know, it's just really sheer hypocrisy. We're kind of living in two different worlds now. And if you're in democrat turf, it's like you're back in the feudalistic ages and you have a lord. And at this point, he demands pretty much everything from your firstborn to, you know, all of your assets and abject slavery and you have to wear a mask. And if we want to, we can just come in and take your children, you know, that's what they're gonna do in California. And that's just dystopian levels. I can't believe people haven't already rioted against that.
 
Sean Morgan  06:48
Yeah, I mean, the DOJ has stepped in a little bit and said, Hey, you gotta let people go to church, but now the governor's like of California and Maine are saying that, okay, you can go to church, but you can't sing and praise God. So do you think I know this gets to a whole other layer here? But if they're keeping the abortions going, they don't want us to praise God? Do you think there's like a spiritual level to this? Or maybe like an energetic level? What are your thoughts on that?
 
Dustin Nemos  07:15
Um, undoubtedly, and I come at this from a really logical background, I was agnostic when all this started, I didn't, wasn't even interested in the topic that much other than like, historically in philosophy, but philosophically, but I mean, after seeing all this evil for three years straight, and having explored more than I'd ever explored before things secu some of these topics, I mean, I do think there's a spiritual aspect to it. I think they're organized and intelligent, maybe even superhuman intelligence on the evil side. But I also think a lot of what they're doing is targeting Christians i think it's it's in some of that's just communists hate religion, because it replaces government with something a little bit more important and that's why they sort of target Christians and others as well, but I really think that there is a religious or spiritual aspect to this. I mean, some of these people go out of their way to kill republicans in order to win an election. They they half of the deaths from Coronavirus, which are massively inflated come out of elder nursing homes. You know, they're forcing people into these things. They're sick, even out of the way going, going out of the way to force these people into these homes, knowing that it's going to murder largely Republican, older people, which it's basically the only segment of the population that actually have to fear Coronavirus ironically, in a sad way. So yeah, I think there's a spiritual aspect to this. There's certainly if you if you get a chance to watch the short documentary called the weird ways of the elite by Jay Meyers, I think it is and it goes into the some of the ways that they use to, to break their own children and some of these elite families so that they'll grow as psychopaths so that they'll be as evil as they are to rule the family business, I guess. It's a real mafia kind of way of living. I think. Right.
 
Sean Morgan  09:00
That's a really good analogy of the mafia. And I absolutely agree that the people within within this, they're using the mind control tactics on their own, to have that 100% control and to have an army kind of like a military style control because the same thing happens in our military. Let's face it, that's what boot camp is all about is mind control, where you know, you got to wake up in the middle of the night and scream, I want to kill something that's part of their training. So anyway, can you go into this is gets complicated, but then it's probably higher than my paygrade to really understand what's going on with Grinnell, you know, in these these documents. And and what's going on with the Q post specifically is talking about a letter from Grinnell to Senator Warner is a Democrat, and he's citing executive order 13526 which is about how You can't just classify something or keep something classified or refused to declassify something to try to cover up a crime. And so this relates to Flynn, the unmasking of Flynn. Now, you just tweeted today, letting everyone know that the conversation between the Russian ambassador and Flynn has been released. So I know this is complicated. I know it has like a lot of a lot of details. But can you kind of dumb this down if possible, if you feel like you want to cover this? Well, this whole Flynn Grinnell documents what it's all leading to,
 
Dustin Nemos  10:38
this is the this is just the chess move, counter move of the Patriots and it's been planned for a while q brought this up a long time ago, he brought this specific law up where you don't get to just use embarrassment or criminal activity on behalf of the government as an excuse to classify things and I think that's just the natural consequence. Now, using That sort of scare moochie model of attempt to come in and like kind of mess things up a little bit. So Brunel got in there, he started to D class a bunch of stuff on the way out he D class a bunch more. And now we're going to start to see the same thing. I think at a rackleff. They're going to continue to declassify these things drip drip to keep the public excited and interesting and the momentum growing, and Obama gate will grow Obama gate will continue to grow. It's not going anywhere. So if you were on Twitter in that, you know, big Obama gate fight, they kept dropping it down to zero. We kept getting taking it back to 4 million people and then down to zero back to 4 million and it was ridiculous. And the counter fight to that was Twitter tried to trend Trump gate which got to like 70,000 people or something. So we're really we outnumber them so massively, and now they're censoring President Trump on Twitter more than ever, even with the little fact checking. You talked about before. Some of these fact checkers that like Snopes and such and now we have those underneath his tweets in some cases. So it's A matter of time, I think until Trump leaves Twitter and big tech falls apart. And that's, you know that that's a good opportunity to talk about some of the alternatives out there. They're kind of replacing tech.
 
Sean Morgan  12:12
Let's explain what happened, because this is really breaking news that Trump had a tweet about how Malin ballot voting is, is very vulnerable to fraud. And and then, you know, what's funny is that like, within hours, it was like a breaking news article about how there was fraud for mail and voting. I forget which state it was, but but recently in Pennsylvania, there was a judge who was involved in that kind of thing. There's a there's a video from Jerry Nadler from way back in the day where he's saying, Man, I could tell you a million stories of Mellon voting fraud. So anyway, this is obviously something that you don't need to fact check. You know, it's there's tons of evidence out there for it. It's breaking news evidence and yet Twitter put a disclaimer Under with citing CNN and Washington Post two of the worst news publications out there and saying that Hey, no, this just doesn't have in there is no no fraud and mail and voting. And so Trump, I feel like he came back real hard and said, Hey, wait a minute, this is unprecedent, you are censoring the president, the United States, you cannot do this and big there are going to be big repercussions to this. So what do you think those repercussions are going to be?
 
Dustin Nemos  13:30
Well, we're dealing with an interesting duality here. On the one hand, I admire the left for one thing, and that's their total commitment to victory. They understand that the victors are going to write history here. So it doesn't really matter what they do in the day to day they're willing to just get caught and abject lies because they're just really talking to their hurt at this point. They know if they win, they can rewrite it all and it'll never have happened. And that's what communists do throughout history. That's why they pull down statues and that's why supposedly the party switched and the democrats are no longer there. Part of the KKK in slavery supposedly, and although that never happened, so I think it is just more manipulation. I think that this is the biggest lie fake news has ever tried to pull. They've tanked the world economy, they've woken up all the sleeping people that didn't care about politics. And I think the, you know, the other duality to this is that their crimes are exposed and they have nothing to lose, they're going down, many of them are going to be put down for treason, which is death, and many of them are going to go to prison for you know, conspiracies all around with this. I mean, hundreds of people in the media are likely to go to prison for if not treason, you know, long sentences for what they've done. President Trump is hashtagging Tories and all the time and talking about Obama gate and he won't stop and they can't shut him up and he's got the attention of the world. So these crimes are coming out. They can't really do anything about it. All they can do is kick and scream as fake news continues to have mass layoffs and we continue to grow to Despite being censored,
 
Sean Morgan  15:01
do you think there will be a legal repercussion against Twitter for this specific action?
 
Dustin Nemos  15:06
I mean, I think we're at that point now, because you see a lot of big names, including Trump, saying that we're not going to stay on for the left wing dominance of these big tech companies and censorship and stuff. And, you know, now we're seeing a antitrust action for the DOJ coming down as well. So I still think we need to have civil action because you know, just like ag bar has encouraged in the past, it has a stronger precedent setting ability. You know, if we have real victims going out there and sorry, I've got pop ups, real victims going out there and, and sharing their story and getting a real case on the books and I like maybe a class action. It could do a lot more than just a DOJ antitrust thing but you know, it's a good start. And I think that there will be consequences. I think these companies as Q said, will break under the weight of their illegalities
 
Sean Morgan  15:57
and you have been personally affected by it. censorship. Can you tell us your story and then what you are doing about it?
 
Dustin Nemos  16:05
I have been. I mean, I guess it started a month before my daughter was born. And she's over two now. So it's been a while. I was banned outright for covering the truth of what happened in the Florida school shooting, just using MSM clips and logic. And they didn't like that one. I was at about 45,000 subscribers. I rebuilt I learned a lot of lessons from that. And despite being kind of shadow banned, and demonetised they did and at some points, actually d platformed. from speaking events and bomb blagged going to speaking events and things like that at the TSA level. So there's a lot of little things too, but mainly, you know, my subscriber count on YouTube, for example, was frozen at 96 and a half thousand subscribers every year. I mean, it was everybody was talking about it in the background like I had. Excuse me, I had big friends with like half a mil subscribers would tell people to go sign up to my channel and not not a boost, right? I had that best selling Q book and not a boost. So it was really just incredible. And they finally backed off in the last month like just 1%. So I'm, I'm starting to grow again, I think they got, I think there were where it was too obvious. So I've dealt with it, I've I've really experienced the pain that goes with it, the economic hardship that goes with it. And we had just gone full time as YouTubers, my wife and I kind of doing this as a home business, she helps me a lot. And then we they banned us and destroyed our entire income and business. So we had to start over with baby on the way in a month and rent do right. So I've been through all of that. And we have on the other side of it, built a small and growing fast movement called stop burning.com which is like the Nazis with books. They burned everything they didn't agree with. You're seeing that from the left today. On the internet, it's a bit burning instead of book burning. So stop. Bit burning.com is where we're unifying, you know, hundreds of independent media and censored authors and people like that people with us who may want to participate in a class action lawsuit. And that's kind of where we're headed with that. So we're doing something about it, rather than just sitting around waiting to be taken out one by one. And I'm happy to see that a lot of people have taken an interest in that.
 
Sean Morgan  18:28
So where is this heading? What are what are your goals? Besides the lawsuits? Where are you at right now you're trying to get people to sign up. You want creators to be involved?
 
Dustin Nemos  18:40
Well, you know, we're just sort of spreading the word looking for critical mass, we hit 150 people on the email list, which are all this is just the VIP centered people list, YouTube, radio, book, whatever it may be. These are censored public figures basically. So they actually have a claim they want to be sued. And then there's another list for support. On the website if you want to get updates and stuff, but for that list, we're up to 150. And total Doc, we looked at the math like kind of rough, over 10 million subscribers we represent. So if we continue to grow that, then we actually have potential to make censorship and this class action lawsuit and election issue, you know, by the end of the year, so that's kind of where we're hoping to take it. Eventually it will go to a funding phase because Google's going to come with us 100 lawyers, Todd's already told me, you know, and I hired Todd, to do the research project to tell us how do we take them on and get past just being an automatic dismissal? How do we get to discovery with with using the Google whistleblowers act for he's expertise here to help guide us, we have to actually still get to discovery. So we have a viable untested approach but a viable approach that I that I commissioned with Todd, same guy that beat CNN, so super lawyer, that's what I like to joke and he lays out a path of winning so if we can get the class action together, We can get hundreds of content creators with 10s of millions of subscribers together, we can take on Google and it'll be cheap. It'll be hands make light work. And we can get even. And we can set this right. And we can fix this for future generations. And we can set a precedent. That is my hope. And I'm really happy to see that, you know, as a small YouTube channel, there's a lot of bigger channels that are paying attention to that now to behind the scenes, coming some of these zoom meetings like we're doing right now, where you'll have 40 or 50 different faces that you recognize in one place. It's really cool experience to do that. And I would invite you to participate as
 
Sean Morgan  20:36
well. I signed up today, I've been censored on YouTube and Twitter, my free course was taken off a Udemy my podcast was ripped off of Spotify. So if you use the word queue and on out there, you're going to get censored. It's there's no doubt about it.
 
Dustin Nemos  20:49
Yeah, yeah, it you know, before all of this started before the algorithm got really smart. I had gotten 30,000 subscribers that last month, you know, I started My channel was 1200 a day subscribers. So, you know, it was never a problem of growth until the AI and then all of you know not just me I'm using myself as an example but everybody's graphs just sort of went down tanked and, and then for 14 months, mine was actually like negative sometimes.
 
Sean Morgan  21:18
So I was losing drivers for a year. And it's dangerous territory to cover the Coronavirus because YouTube's just ripping off any videos that are talking about any alternative treatments or alternative narrative. So can you tell me about the other project you mentioned, where people like you and me who are doing alternative news can go there, connect with audiences connect with sponsors who are aligned with that kind of thing.
 
Dustin Nemos  21:47
This is a sister movement of stop bit burning. So that one was founded of the frustration of dealing with censorship. This one was founded with the frustration of dealing with D monetization, you know, as a new father as an expectant father. At the time when we conceived this, I've got a family to provide for. I mean, I work 17 hours a day for three years, I've put out 3000 plus videos. I mean, it's not like I don't work hard. And it's not like that I don't bring some value to people because they choose to support what I'm doing. But YouTube wanted to interfere. So they D monetize me and they took away my income. And since that time, we've developed a business called red pill living. And that business has gone to seven figures in less than two years. And I'm not rich, no, it's growing very quickly, but that's myself and over a dozen other independent media channels that are being funded by this so you know, we're getting buying but I'll say this, I've tripled what I was making with YouTube by working with these patriot sponsors and and the website for that is white Hatton's mint.com.
 
Sean Morgan  22:48
And I'm gonna put all the links below so people can check that out. I would love to get involved as well. I have a couple of really cool sponsors like here so company who are you know, they read out to me. Yeah, because they believe in this stuff. So
 
Dustin Nemos  23:04
they're on our marketplace called magazine as well. We have like a, sort of like the Patriot free speech, Amazon, not quite as advanced, obviously. But we have a marketplace like that with over 800 and growing items from over 100 plus different sellers now, and Luke is actually one of those, so you can buy her books out there too, but I want them to go through your link. So thanks.
 
Sean Morgan  23:27
Well, thank you, Dustin, you know, you speak very well about all these topics that are important nowadays. And thank you for your insight on everything and thank you for, for just standing up and doing something because you know what people do when they're on social media and they get censored. Normally nothing. They just complain. And you can't do that you have to take action. Like for one thing, you don't have to be stuck on that platform. You can join gab you can, you know, join bitch shoot or whatever and you can start a new community and you can connect with a new community and you can Do class action lawsuits you can report this to the executive branch because they have a new panel to explore this stuff. And so there's so much you can do. And so a nice first step, I think for anyone out there would be to sign up at the stop burning comm site.
 
Dustin Nemos  24:17
It's a good way to push back against censorship. If you're signed up for the updates, you'll get the updates as well eventually we're going to crowdfund this thing. And I'm hoping everybody just chips in five bucks and we went,
 
Sean Morgan  24:27
hey, if 10 million people chipped in $1 50 cents, that would be enough.
 
Dustin Nemos  24:32
It really would. And we that's why I always practice Art of War. The way I did with the Q book, it went to bestseller before they even notice so that they couldn't really center it, take it down the way they have other books. Some of them are friends of mine. So I wanted to win before striking, I knew the only way to do that is to achieve critical mass before they even see it coming. And that's exactly what we're doing here with stop bit burning. We already have 10 million subscribers that we could reach with an emergency message. And I think with that Little bit more time. And if people like us continue to network that and invite our friends who are YouTubers and, and censored people to that it'll grow to hundreds of millions worldwide. And we will be a force to be reckoned with in the courts. And, you know, we can also talk about other things with that as well. Like maybe we can participate in election reform or we can help to get certain people LinkedIn that are truth candidates, things like that. Who knows we're talking on the same table in everything's possible. Where we want to legal wall just like you said, we're stronger together,
 
Sean Morgan  25:34
right? Just having a network of patriots have the like you said, If you guys collectively have 10 million followers, that's a huge block of people who you can do crowd sourced funding of things, you can crowdsource intelligence and action, political action. You know, if you look at what Bernie Sanders was able to do over two terms, basically is because of An email list. He was able to run, run for president again and be very successful, he totally could have been the main candidate all because he kept an email list that entire time. So it's a powerful thing.
 
Dustin Nemos  26:14
Once we start getting an email list over 10 million, at that point, we could talk about going to DC and becoming like the people's lobbyists group or something because we'll have power in DC to negotiate and, and actually hold people accountable. We can be like the counter lobbyists group, we're just there to expose other lobbyists or something. But just having people on that table that roundtable as I described it, where we're having these conversations, a lot of things come from that besides lawsuits. A lot of good comes from that. Networking, interviews, collaboration. There's a lot of cool things you can you can meet people that may be where your heroes I mean, I've had a lot of people in the meeting that said, Oh, my God, you're here. They're here and yeah, I want to talk to you. You're one
 
Sean Morgan  26:54
Zach Vorhees is a hero for what he's done standing up against Google. And I guess one of the chapters As you'll come, come into as this kind of movement grows is there has to be a system for decision making that's decentralized so that you don't have, you know, controlled opposition and ego and different things that get into the way of progress and, and the things that cause corruption. So any thoughts about blockchain technology and different decision making tools?
 
Dustin Nemos  27:27
Well, specifically around those topics, I think they're fascinating and they have a lot of potential the future around this one, I wouldn't know how we would be able to do that. Our current plan of action was to bring certain people who have sort of evaded career in being censored into a board of decision makers that kind of if they're interested at this point, because not everyone who wants to sue wants to help lead this movement. But people like Zack are stepping up into positions of leadership. And we're setting up the background so that we can actually hopefully do a tax write off for those contribute to this through I think it's actually going through another big figure in censorship and and the truth out there, Dr. Robert Epstein, he has a charity setup. So we may actually go through that, in order to make this a tax write off people who want to contribute. I don't know the details to that part yet. But a lot of things are coming out. So there's going to be some sort of a board of decision makers and people like Zack are hopefully going to be on that education and decision making kind of aspect of it. I'm in the background, sort of bringing people together and trying to network and and send people over here and drive attention to it myself.
 
Sean Morgan  28:37
Nice. Where can people go to get your latest content?
 
Dustin Nemos  28:42
Well, I'm still on YouTube for now. So and I'm on bit shoot as my backup primary. So dusted the most and then the most news network. And then, of course, the most news network.com and about the causes specifically because I like to talk about them more than I do myself. Anyway. White Hat movement calm and stop bit burning calm are ways that we can contribute and push back. If you know people that are being demonetised, or they're still just plugging an Amazon link because they got nothing better or like a Teespring thing, this is a much better payoff for them for their hard work telling the truth and the risk that they take, which I know all too well. I've had gang stalking and death threats and all kinds of stuff that happened to me for this, especially since I started talking about suing Twitter and big tech actually right after that before we even came up with the name stop bit burning calm. As soon as I started talking about that on Twitter within 30 minutes, I got the infamous like phone hack situation. And if you want I could share the voicemails but basically it was just screams that were digitized into sort of a an automatic voicemail Robo caller that kept calling me 100 times a minute where I couldn't even get to airplane mode. And I lost my phone number. It was a weird phone DDoS kind of thing with screams that apparently We're from frazzled ribs. So that's the kind of things that happen in the background when you start organizing it. But it's just attempts to intimidate. So those are my sites, you can find information about the movement and how to get updates, things like that. And that's where I put most of my attention now.
 
Sean Morgan  30:16
Thank you Dustin, you are a true patriots. I really admire what you're doing. I'm going to join the movement and hope to have you back on so we can discuss the plan as it unfolds.
 
Dustin Nemos  30:27
Anytime. Thank you, Shawn, for having me on. I appreciate it. Nice to meet you as well.
 
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Sean Morgan  00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus. Get the free ebook at Q and on faq.com. Okay, I am here with Sue Parker Hall. And so can you tell us a little bit about who you are and what you do?
 
Sue Parker Hall  00:20
Yes, thank you, Shawn. I'm so pleased to be here. And yes, the poker Hall I live in Cornwall in the UK. I'm a registered psychotherapist. And I have several interest threads including anger and rage and I'm author of anger rage relationship, which is a book that helps people resolve that anger and rage issues. I'm also very interested in men's rights. And I I do as much work as I can to promote promote a positive idea of masculinity. Because I don't I don't think masculine Meister
 
Sean Morgan  00:59
has Female allies out there. I didn't know that there was that kind of thing. That's great.
 
Sue Parker Hall  01:05
Yeah, well, thank you. And I don't think men generally get the respect they deserve. And with the radical feminist framing of men is toxic and patriarchs and all the kind of negative framing of being male that distresses me You know, there's been a lot of nice good men in my life and I don't I don't like men. universally, mate. You know, it's the
 
Sean Morgan  01:38
most sexist thing you can do is to generalize 50% of the population. So you you actually specialize not only the anger and rage, but you you look deeply into the aspects, psycho aspects of cults. Is that right?
 
Sue Parker Hall  01:57
Yeah, I'm very interested in cults. Mainly because Because of the radical feminist brainwashing that went on, on men's domestic abuse programs, the Duluth model, that's what sparked my interest is men weren't being offered therapy for their problem behaviors, their abusive behaviors they were, they were being offered political programming. So that's what sparked my interest. Yeah, so I was really hoping to have a little chat with you today about some of the elements of cults they might apply to the media or to this thing
 
Sean Morgan  02:37
can apply to a lot of organizations. I've known some multi level marketing companies that have that kind of reality. But what I think is so interesting about this topic, is that the deep state, that's what I just call it, the deep state, so so it's like the it's all connected to mainstream Media, the, you know, different political parties, the international organizations, all of these different organizations are somehow connected. And so I just call them the deep state, but you can you can call them whatever you want. But they come in a coordinated, very, very coordinated fashion, have been attacking the Q, the Q and on movement. And the way they do that is with some key words and what they always do. What the deep state always does is they project their own crimes and their own traits onto others. And I'm sure as a psychologist, or with your background, you can tell me exactly what that pathology is because I just know it as projection. But I don't know, if you if you could make the deep state into a person and say that that that entity has a certain pathology, you can probably tell a lot about it, like narcissism and things like that. That. But what I want to get out here is that they call Q and Q anon a cult. Yes. And I just think this is laughable because, you know, q doesn't have a personality. So how can you even like know is for someone who's anonymous who you don't even know what they look like or what they are, what they anything about them, how can you worship them, and then also like encouraging us to think for ourselves critical thinking
 
Sue Parker Hall  04:25
that that's the most convincing aspect of Q for me that demonstrates there's not a lot of cold, right, if I can just take you through the different aspects that Robert Jay Lifton has come up with he explored brainwashing in China in the in the early 1950s. So the first elements millea control, its control of communication. Which which fits, doesn't it with the control of the media, but it it it gets so Controlling in the end that it controls internal communication with with oneself, as well as
 
Sean Morgan  05:07
there are certain thoughts and words that you can use and you can't use. Yes. And something that came to mind is the higher education system in the United States how it's been infiltrated with this kind of radical Marxist feminist ideology. So, so yeah, definitely that fits.
 
Sue Parker Hall  05:28
Yeah. And that's, um, that's to the UK as well, actually. Yes, so there's Yeah, control of the environment. The next one is mystical and magical, mystical manipulation, that is the cult leader or whoever has the divine authority, you know, or he's the sole person responsible for spiritual advancement. There's one way of doing things, you know, there's an ideological totalism about it. And the the leader will will kind of create events that look mystical, but that aren't really in order to maintain the authority.
 
Sean Morgan  06:19
Some things that come up when I think about this, although there is not one figure who kind of represents the deep state, they do set up these figureheads and something that's mystical is technology. So you have Bill Gates and Steve Jobs and Jeff Bezos, and they're these people that they they literally are perceived in Time magazine cover after Time magazine cover to be like demigods who are like way beyond us plebes that could never achieve or think or behave anywhere near what they could. And these are the very people who are controlling global agenda in public health with Bill Gates. We've got Jeff So, with Amazon being like the CIA connection as well as outerspace with his Blue Origin project, so what do you what comes to your mind Hollywood superstars?
 
Sue Parker Hall  07:15
Yes. So I was thinking if the yeah more superstars and yeah, rock stars and yeah, we've got Lady Gaga hunt we've got Madonna.
 
Sean Morgan  07:25
LeBron James is one of those superstars in sports who is like just parroting Chinese propaganda right now,
 
Sue Parker Hall  07:32
right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And then the third element is a demand for purity. So the world is viewed as black and white. And this rigid good and rigid bad.
 
Sean Morgan  07:52
Orange man bad is the joke about the Trump it could literally can say, say or think nothing. That is credible or intelligent or whatever. And and the other thing that comes to mind here is that this is a major weakness of the deep state because when they insist on purity, they can never abide by their own standards so that the hypocrisy always comes back to shoot them in the foot.
 
Sue Parker Hall  08:20
Yes. And the cool kind of emotional dynamic here is about shaming people and guilting people you know, and there's a lot of fear in it fear of political correctness comes to mind for me. Yes,
 
Sean Morgan  08:35
qq has actually, I think more than any other subject Q has talked about this where he says that they want you divided by gender, by race, by religion, and they will use all of these shame tactics to make you feel ashamed for being a man ashamed for being Christian or a shame for you know,
 
Sue Parker Hall  08:56
being white being white.
 
Sean Morgan  08:58
Yeah. Anything. So? Yeah. So that that that fits the bill as well.
 
Sue Parker Hall  09:07
Yes, yeah. So and of course, you can never live up to the demand for purity.
 
Sean Morgan  09:14
So you always hate yourself because you always have those thoughts that are politically incorrect.
 
Sue Parker Hall  09:20
It's absolutely characterized by self hate self loathing. And you you carry the shadow, you know, you carry the shadow, because you're never perfect. The person who's holding you accountable and or the phenomenon that's holding you accountable holds all the perfection.
 
Sean Morgan  09:41
Right? Nazi Germany comes to mind where they, there was this ideal person who was blond haired and blue eyed and loved their country more than anything. And then like, you know, more than 50% of the population didn't look like that or act like that. And so they hated themselves. Yeah.
 
Sue Parker Hall  10:00
Absolutely. And then I've didn't quite know how this one fits to and there's often a cult of confession within a cult.
 
Sean Morgan  10:12
I have a perfect one for this. Oh, Tucker Carlson did a brilliant piece about baito O'Rourke. So when baito was running for president, he said and did all of these things that to a normal person would seem like a normal thing to say, like, for example, he said, My wife has done most of the work with our kids. And then like the left was like, that doesn't stand up to our purity test. How dare you say that your wife does more work for the kids and joke about it. And then he did like this confession on Oprah. I'm so sorry that I said that. I'm going to be more careful with my words. That was wrong of me. And he just kept on confessing and it's like, over and over again. I'm not getting Good enough, I was wrong. I'm horrible and Tucker's like this is sick. This is like this is making that, like, every everyone should hate themselves. He took her like, got exactly to that psychological point.
 
Sue Parker Hall  11:14
Yes. Yes. And again this this comes out of guilt and you have to scrape things up to confess you know things that you don't even believe that you've done wrong. You have to even make stuff up to assuage the cult leader or, you know, whoever's the leader. So that's the call to confession. Sacred science. This is where the doctrine of the group is considered the ultimate truth. There's no questioning it. There's no disputing it. Whoever's purveying, it's beyond criticism. The spoke person's list kind of gotten us.
 
Sean Morgan  12:03
Right. What comes to mind here, because especially with the word science, is that there's a priesthood in things like mainstream science. For example, when Dr. Fauci gets in front of everyone, he says, He knows what's best for us, even though all his predictions and everything had been wrong over and over and over again, it doesn't matter. He's the figurehead. He's in the priesthood. He is licensed, literally licensed by the states. And so people who have these licenses, whether they're lawyers, you know, with the bar association or medical, they they have this license that actually puts them in like a priesthood where you can't question their authority.
 
Sue Parker Hall  12:43
Absolutely. It's very disturbing, isn't it? It's very, very disturbing. Yes. And then the next one. Oh, language, you've already touched on the idea of language. Certain little sound bites are produced that only the in group know about these these, these sound bites are a way of actually stopping people's process. So reducing something that might you want might want to critically analyze or think deeply or widely about gets condensed to a
 
Sean Morgan  13:29
Yeah, the term conspiracy theorist exactly does that. I remember, there was a time when if you mentioned Donald Trump at all, or any of his policies or anything people would just say kids in cages. It was like this phrase, that even though the Obama administration had like the exact same policy, they just locked in on that because the media just kept repeating it over and over again and then as soon as someone says kids in cages, it was just like, Trump, orange man bad and shuts down all thinking
 
Sue Parker Hall  14:00
Absolutely So thought terminating, cliche. And that's it that's its whole purpose is to, to stop any critical analysis or any thinking beyond what's allowed doctrine over the person. So the doctrine is more important than the person, the ideology has to be upheld. And people will be sacrificed if they don't hold up to the ideology, if they have a different opinion or question is even even if they're just question it.
 
Sean Morgan  14:41
Yeah, I have a good example of that Roseanne Barr had the number one TV show in the United States. It was the only TV show that showed normal conservative family that happened to support Trump. And like, of course, because it was the only thing like that available in the media people. I just loved it. They they, it was it was, like I said, the highest rated television show. And what she did is she mentioned, Valerie Jarrett and the Muslim Brotherhood on Twitter one time, and then the rest of the mainstream media attacked her, she got fired. The TV show, you know, got got pooled, because she broke the laws of that priesthood. And she was, she was sacrificed. And what's really cool is that Roseanne Barr is interviewing with small YouTube channels like mine all the time now. So she she's one of the only people in Hollywood who has stood up for the truth.
 
Sue Parker Hall  15:37
Brilliant. Yeah. And if, if you do have a difference of opinion, you know, if you do argue with the doctrine, then you'd be thoroughly shamed. And that would be a sign that you were deviant or that you that you will needing to improve yourself. And that would, it would be a personal problem. You know, it wouldn't be an organization problem, it would be your personal problem. Right? And the last thing is dispensing of existence. The idea of being shunned or turned out of the community, you know,
 
Sean Morgan  16:17
yes, I've experienced this on Facebook. Right? Yes. This is where if you say anything that goes against the group, then they will say, well, you can just unfriend me if you support Trump, but yes, you You are no longer my friend, you are no longer part of my life. You think differently from me. You know, and I've never, I've never done that or thought that for people who think differently from me. But I suppose, of course, that there are cult like aspects to the Republican Party and the Trump supporters. So let's get into that because Trump is this big personality. That's the top and that's really dangerous for calls. So It's very important that we question Trump that we have dissenting opinions from Trump that we express those that we don't say everything he says is right, and all this stuff, because that could be really big danger of having and there already is, of course, called level of following. with Trump. So it's important that this goes beyond one person, and that's why I like terms like America first. And that goes beyond just Trump and, and him. So what are your thoughts on that?
 
Sue Parker Hall  17:36
And well, I feel physically disturbed any polarization of any kind. I really got interested in Donald Trump, when, when people were being so hateful towards him. It's a little bit like I don't like people being hateful towards men, or I don't feel I don't Like people being hateful towards anybody, and that really gets me activated. And I think I strive very carefully to find the middle of the middle of the Middle East ground for my own sanity and preservation. And really sorry,
 
Sean Morgan  18:20
sorry, I just wanted to before I forget what happened the reason why Donald Trump won the first election is because he got so much airtime even though it was all bad press it. It's like a it's like a perverse, turning him into a cult like figure by just constantly putting the attention on him and all his bad qualities. It's like it perverts it into a cult.
 
Sue Parker Hall  18:43
But he's demonized, isn't it? He's made to devil. Yes, yeah. Yeah. And I just find that so disturbing. And I just discovered rebel wisdom and they're very keen on speaking from a non polarized place. And I think for me, that's the way of going forward is, is wanting to find some middle road. That doesn't make them bad doesn't make them bad. That is just just brings peace to me. You know, my truth is to me that that's what I'm thinking.
 
Sean Morgan  19:28
Yeah, I agree. You know, I think that it's very dangerous to get into a one party or a one ideology kind of situation. That's what they have in Communist China and anyone who thinks differently gets put into a reeducation camp. So it would be horrible in the United States if we went to only the republican party and only conservative ideology. What will kind of what's it's natural for human society to have dissenting opinions and, and different perspectives. That's why we have a bicameral type of Parliament's system so that you have different sides that have dissenting arguments and they synthesize and create something better than they would have separately.
 
Sue Parker Hall  20:11
Yes, that's what we'd hope, isn't it? That's what we'd hate. Right? And I was I was thinking, I only have to say to some people, I don't hate Trump, and I get jumped on. You know, I'm not allowed to say I don't hate him. All right. And the beggars belief to me that his name is such a trigger for people that is equal have been so thoroughly brainwashed. And to not question you know, not Yeah, so that's the one thing and there was something else you said to pick up
 
Sean Morgan  20:52
on. It's interesting that the word you chose the word hate because that's very dark to hate. anything or anyone? So it's a very dangerous emotion to be so penetrated into the public consciousness because that can be weaponized into violence so quickly.
 
Sue Parker Hall  21:13
Yes, absolutely. And it's so divisive. I mean, it's so black and white. It's so utterly, utterly rejecting of other of anybody other. And I, I love listening to other people's points of view. I don't feel threatened by them. I welcome them having their opinion. But I do struggle when people aren't prepared to listen to me. Right?
 
Sean Morgan  21:39
Yes, so it's all about having boundaries. And if someone if someone wants to have a relationship with you, where they don't listen to you, well, that that's not going to fly. Know exactly. You just have to let them know your boundaries, right? Yes,
 
Sue Parker Hall  21:57
yeah, yeah, absolutely do and then it does include loss. And then they you've talked about losses too. Yeah. No, it has. It has involved losses.
 
Sean Morgan  22:06
The word cue and on is one of those words that will trigger people to reject you. Yeah. Because the implications are so scary for them. That it's easier to label you and discard you than it is to explore that idea. So, yeah, it's just something people have to look at and understand that if you're going to be in the search for truth, and it's going to if you're going to encounter some of these keywords, you know, related to politics or religion, and spirituality, or could be what's going on with Coronavirus right now, because that has an ideology and if you question that you can get rejected by the group.
 
Sue Parker Hall  22:56
Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
 
Sean Morgan  23:00
So So, you know, go ahead, you can finish your thought. But then can you tell people where they can go to learn more about your Facebook group about masculinity and learn more about you?
 
Sue Parker Hall  23:10
Oh, okay. Thank you. And yes, so a colleague and I said, Fine. We've got a little Facebook page called the other half, which is the other half of the story, we feel as though women's statistics, women's experience, women's interventions are much more talked about and have been prioritized. And we'd like men's mental health in particular, to be given more thought and more attention than just things like you know, now you've mentioned it, there's a very high suicide rate for men. If it was women who were committing suicide at that rate, there would be absolute uproar. But But there isn't, you know, that men are doing it. Yes. So the other thing We're running a little training day actually, it's full now. But I think I might run a skit again, we're looking at archetypes rather than stereotypes. We're looking at masculinity in terms of its archetypal qualities and characters and from a very positive point of view, you know, and acknowledging that some alpha male is helpful, or even attractive. Yeah, yeah. But we'll be running that. I think we'll be running that a few times. And there's been quite a lot of interesting. Hundred places went in less than 24 hours. So I think we'll be doing it again. I think we will. Great. Well, yeah,
 
Sean Morgan  24:50
so I will put a link to the Facebook group so people can easily access that because that's free for people to join, right? Oh, absolutely. And
 
Sue Parker Hall  24:56
the the, the hundred plus training is free. We're asking for donation after the event you know, if you think it was any good, perhaps you can bug us some money. That's no way we're just really keen to get the get the information out.
 
Sean Morgan  25:13
Thank you sue for your thoughts about the the psychology of the cult of the deep states and perhaps even of the Trump voters. And, you know, we'll we'll do another conversation soon about other aspects of the the Great Awakening.
 
Sue Parker Hall  25:28
Brilliant. Thank you. Sean
 
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Sean Morgan  00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus, get the free ebook at Q and on faq.com. I'm here with my friend Shem. And actually Sham we met because we got into a meeting, I was selling websites and I showed you your website and you're working on a new project. And we found out that we're both musicians, and we're both interested in spirituality. And so you ended up helping me You did a session, I don't know what to call it exactly. You can explain what it's called. But basically, the thing that really helped me is getting in touch with the inner child and forgiveness and things like that. So thank you for helping me with that. And can you just give us a quick introduction of who you are what you do?
 
Shem  00:48
Sure. Shem give Bori I'm a violinist. I have been a member of the Metropolitan Opera orchestra for quite a long time. I also been blessed to have quite an extensive career as a soloist and playing chamber music, both traditional European classical chamber music and what was at in the 80s. And 90s was called the avant avant garde scene in New York, which is really pretty International. I was the original violinist in the Steve Reich in musicians, with Anthony Davis, and episiotomy, and through those two groups, I met a host of the most amazing musicians from really all across the planet in all different cultures. And I think that those, that multicultural influence had a profound effect on me. Do you want a little bit of history that ties into where I'm working now because it's kind of an unusual set of wonderful gifts? And I'd be sure yeah,
 
Sean Morgan  01:55
about about a quick summary of that.
 
Shem  01:59
So um, I grew up in new European family Russian father living in Connecticut very disciplined upbringing. Everybody was up early and we practiced I had to practice violin and piano before I went to school and went to public school in Norwalk, Connecticut, which was great. And at the age of 15, I got an offer to go to California and go to college at California Institute of the Arts, Cal Arts, which was Walt Disney's brainchild that the arts were fundamentally interrelated and should be taught and studied that way. I got an offer to come with a scholarship. My parents said, Do you want to go I said, Yeah. And these parents who would help me but this like tight rein very distant said, Go. I was like, Wow. So there was a at CalArts there were musicians from Ghana, from South India. From North India from Bali, Japanese have shakuhachi teacher and these people could play plus the European classical stuff and there was a small explosion in my mind of a Eurocentric view. Then you combined Allan Kaprow running the art department, he was the guy who invented the happening, the art happening. And john Baldessari and Sandy Mackendrick in the converting the film school hand skills the animators from Walt Disney studio who did all the hand drawings of the early cartoons and the early Mickey Mouse and all of the characters all of that and the Sorcerer's Apprentice. All those guys they were teaching there. So was amazing. And it's kind of set me on a path of always looking for what was in common with many arts. Okay. So now Now you and I met where I'm doing sessions for people, not just musicians, not just artists, but for anyone, business people, executives, artists, too, who want to clear resistance that they have to their creativity. Or someone may want to actually, they know they're creative, but you just don't know what to do. How do you find out what you want to do? Right. And I've become very, over the years of teaching both music and doing quite a number of different type of counseling sessions, both as a client and as a let's see a learner under the guidance of a teacher, right. I've become very good at being a diagnostician as to where people make when they get stuck. What's what they're stuck on, you know, like you're trying to move ahead and your shirts caught on something. You can't See the thorn bush that you backed into and level and then those swords they hook through the shirt. You can tear your shirt off your back, you can rip your skin, maybe you'll get the thorns out, maybe they're still in there. So I become another expert at figuring out what, where people get hung up in themselves, and helping them take get unstuck or take the next step and whatnot. Now, I'm curious because,
 
Sean Morgan  05:31
you know, when we when we met them, when we did our session, I was in this technology sales job, and it was it was quite stressful. And I'm wondering, did you diagnose that I needed to get in touch with my inner child or is that just a part of any kind of session that you do that that's part of the process?
 
Shem  05:53
Let's the inner child is an integral component to creativity for every human being One among several. But in answer to your question, no. I'm You what? So I really didn't know you, right? We had had these interactions about a web website design that and then your way of handling the conversations caught my attention. Because at one time I was tell you why I was just fascinated by sales. Like what goes into it and how do people do it? It's just, it's the whole art. And for the people who really are, I believe good at it. For many of them. It's a spiritual practice of alignment. them being aligned and helping someone else get aligned with whatever benefit product has or the idea. I was very impressed with how you handled so I thought I got it. Got to ask this guy, would you want a session? If you liked it give me a testimonial or something like that you said, Sure. So I had no clue what your orientation in life was. It wasn't it's just that you were really good at what you did. And you were pro at sales at cold handling strangers, and which is not easy in, in my opinion. So when it comes to a session, my intuition is, well, it's pretty good, getting better and well honed. And I basically, within this is with a counseling session, whatever you would call this or, you know, creativity sessions, or a music lesson for a group or a instrumental lesson for a musician, regardless of whether it's violin, piano, or whatever. Within a minute or two minutes, I get it. This is not unusual for experienced teachers who were effective with different people. I do have a good gift of that. And then it's within just a very short time, you can sort of see the path and then comes, well, how do you open possibilities for a person laying the breadcrumbs so that there is a discovery for them rather than you saying, Oh, you need to blah blah, blah, do this. Right. Which sometimes it's tempting because you could see Oh, if only you If only but I find that that doesn't work so much as sort of trying to hold a space into which the person can step and go. There are many skill. There are many skills or routines that routines really. There are many approaches that one can take to do that. And it just became evident for me what I believe to be the best thing and I've learned to stick to my guns and not second guess myself. And I really haven't been wrong yet.
 
Sean Morgan  09:25
So you were telling me about how you perceive the universe. And this is not just you. This is like an ancient, you mentioned Taoism and other types of traditions and worldviews, that there's this energy in the universe. And there's the yin and the yang. And, and you said something about the 99% of the universe is actually feminine energy. Can you talk about Yeah, model of the universe. Okay.
 
Shem  09:53
So I've had some lifelong interests. One is I was a I was fascinated by Richard Fineman, the physicist as an adventurer who had a unique way of tackling problems. And for him if he wasn't playing at physics, he was working physics. He got nowhere he had to be playing. And then he would, things would unfold for him. So, and I followed in as best I can, over the last 30 odd years, some of the lay the people, the physicists who write for the lay audience, right. So I follow that. I've also had a lifelong interest in the martial arts with an emphasis on for a long time it was the martial part because I had a very combative streak. And more recently, I understand that that's 10% of the application of the Part of the internal flow of tea in the body and becoming aligned and aware and directing that flow. And then as a violinist, it's a very end as a musician, it's a very, there are certain systems and principles which have to be observed physiologically for the sound to be beautiful for a string player for a pianist, and even for wind players, there are certain principles that have to be followed. And I started to see common languages between all that. And in the last three years I've studied with grant of, I believe he's a knowledge in the Chinese martial art world. Here is a grandmaster. His name is Joseph in enchi lives in New Jersey. Very generous man. It's quite remarkable. Because he teaches very directly without hiding stuff, how to let go to the Yin flow of the universe now, yin and yang are these opposite forces, we discuss them and evaluate them as if they're separate things. Right, the male and the female, but in fact, they're really they never appear one without the other. And as you develop in ci Gong, which means cheese, lifeforce, and Gong is practice. I see developing that whether it's Tai Chi, Bagua, sheeny, these other things, they're all applications of the same thing as you develop, you start to gain a sense of directive control where you can emphasize young energy which is viewed as male, forceful, penetrating, piercing impactive right? Or Yin, which is yielding? Yeah, well we say passive because there is compared to an aggression, it's passive. But if if you had seafood in, put his finger on your shoulder and try to stay standing, and you realize and he's laughing at you, because his muscles are not tense at all. And he's just laughing as you can, as you have to gradually submit to His pressure which he is allowing more and more of gravity to move through. This is not passive. I mean, when you experience it that way, it's like, oh, this is something else. And he is able to teach that how to basically allow the weight of the bone in the tendon to do your work. Now you can apply this in playing the body In the piano or anything, the greatest artists when you watch this what they're doing, they just think up to it different way. He got it this way,
 
Sean Morgan  14:11
is not just a physical practice, right i mean this this is a principle that you can apply to the way you you think the way you behave the way you you are in the world, the the way that you perceive things and interact with people
 
Shem  14:30
completely if you're crossing hands with him in sparring, right, ci so if you're doing that, he'll, as a teacher, you know, he'll be giving you what to work with in guiding but if he doesn't want to be there, you can never touch him because he's so in your flow with your energy that he's just either coming with you or not there. He's just there. You can never Touch the man. And you drive you want to drive on the road, right? You're driving in your car, you're thinking about this, you're thinking about that. And if you want space around you on the crowded highway, you find a certain rate and you'd let the people pass it you You Let Them honk, you let them get on your tail, then you slow down a little, you release energy on the gas pedal, and then they pull around you, right? That is a very similar application. And he uses that analogy all the time. And that when you're in that it is something you do kind of in the back of your mind, you don't actually think about all these details. Otherwise, you'd be there gripping the wheel and be you'd be nuts. And that's where mistakes would happen. That would be my young driver, or the Yin driver who's just gets there. Right,
 
Sean Morgan  15:50
right. And what I've experienced in my life, and I think this is pretty common in western civilization is that we get this idea Do in our head that we have to be ultra young, ultra active, ultra motivated, in order to, I don't know what it is achieve, get things get money, be successful be recognized. But you know, what happens is when you just keep going and going and trying and trying, trying, you burn yourself out, you just spin your wheels, and you get nowhere sometimes. Yeah, so there's there's some kind of balance where you can't just do nothing but but you can get with the flow and get aligned with who you are and what your strengths are. And just do them instead of trying you just do and then things start to fall into place and you start attracting certain things and the timing is amazing and, and then all of a sudden you're achieving more by doing less.
 
Shem  16:54
Yes, that's an example of that principle at work in my view.
 
Sean Morgan  16:59
So So I'm sure a lot of people want to tap into that. And, you know, I'm sure there are a million ways to do it. With, with my particular case where you helped me is that I was holding I was there was some kind of emotional blockage within me at that time, where I wasn't acknowledging that part of myself that wanted to play wanted to have fun, wanted to maybe experience emotions that I wasn't ready to experience or maybe some forgiveness or things that from the past. Do you think that's the same case for a lot of people? There's some kind of block there.
 
Shem  17:40
Yeah, I actually, it's a I'm glad you you mentioned that because I'll tell you a story of a very amazing opera singer who never made it. The way I couldn't figure out why, and this person was so dead. Katy on the audition circuit, it's a grind to get through and it's like it never happened. And, you know, Oprah's the law of attraction was very big at that time and she kept practicing and practicing it. And for the life of me, like, as a, as a person, as a professional musician with tremendous experience hearing operatic voices, like the best in the world for decades. Like none of this made sense to me. So, turns out, I've heard a number of very experienced counselors use this percentage 90%, roughly, of our lives are controlled by our subconscious. Related to that concept is what I believe Einstein said you know, like, we will To use 10% of our brains, and that's these are, that's a convention number. I believe the quote is, is many people just the science have figured it out that there are different parts of the brain is still evolving and so on right? But that 90% subconscious layer will put the brakes on in so many ways. Now let's take my opera singer friend, a pianist to played for them regularly who is very astute and observant and understands the dreck part of the business and understands the art part. I asked him you know, Frank, can you can you give me an explanation for this? Why is this person suffering so with no luck. His conjecture was that when they walked out on the stage, they were projecting a You owe me underneath everything and that vibration communicates like this. And so the people instead of sitting, listening like this is sitting listening like this. Yeah. And that it is off putting. Now that's a that's a, you could almost see a stereotypical example because we don't know, is it true or is it not? But it's an example in illustration of how that subconscious can work. So let me give you an example.
 
Sean Morgan  20:24
So humility would be actually a part of that feminine energy because it's more yielding. The The, the first shall be the last and the last shall be the first is actually a universal principle. Where you know, you try to assert yourself, people don't want to raise you up, but if you humble yourself, people like appreciate you and trust you and want to exalt you.
 
Shem  20:52
Yes, I believe that that is exactly the the principle at play there. So part of of what I will do in a session. And the thing is this the subconscious, in the model that I am operating in this to say it's a, it's a, it's an applied theory, because everybody's still learning this stuff we were, we we perceive things as how we think they are, and yet they always are so infinite, we're learning so, but it's a very effective and consistent model. Okay, is that the subconscious brings up, it's motivated by fear. The antidote to fear is love. Fear is really ultimately like, what is that and that when false evidence appearing real, right? And fear does not keep you safe. That's an that's an old that's an old paradigm of belief that I believe is out of date. But that comes up and the fear one To go to the light wants to go to the love and be transformed now, so we hear we there's fear there's a block for it. Let me give you an example of myself. Where
 
Sean Morgan  22:14
can we do an example related to Coronavirus in the lockdown? Because everyone is experiencing some level of fear mongering from the media and from the government and everything. So people are in their home, they're wearing masks, they're looking at other people wearing masks. They're worried about their health, their family, their job, their money. And so there's this big pressure of fear on everyone as a collective. And I'm just wondering, how do people break out of that and experience that transformation you're discussing? Sure.
 
Shem  22:52
All right. So one of the challenges that I and my colleagues and friends have Had specially in the first six weeks, say starting from mid May when things mid March when things were starting to shut down, was there was the fear of coming in contact with the virus. So there was a need to adopt sanitary procedures and distancing. And a real careful analysis of what comes into your dwelling. Where was it? What do you do? Okay, so there's that. But there's also there were these waves of fear that felt like paralyzing like, Oh my god, what if you start protecting right? So To my mind, the fear component is related to the virus. Now, is it something that would be naturally you should be afraid of? Oh, yeah. All right. So this is not a Pollyanna point of view them thing, however, transforming that fear. into trust in Divine Source, whatever that is, God divine oneness, Mother, Father God, I don't know I whatever, whatever your orientation is, but that trust is, in part, the antidote to that fear. And you got to take care of business, your mask you put on your gloves, or whatever and you wash your hands, you don't touch your face, you know, you know? it you know, there are examples that there's that whole church in Korea and some some guys being taken up a someone's being taken an American being taken up on charges in Myanmar, because he he conducted religious services or something with you know, large gatherings of people. Just like You know, to me, that's contraindicated, that is not love that something else to me, but those are examples. And maybe part of that those individuals way of dealing with the fear was trusting in the Lord and I am compelled to do good work. So I'm going to do this regardless. And that was their personal response to the fear. I mean, this we're speculating, we don't know. But those would be illustrations of how subconscious fear produces actions in a person or limits action. That's one example. Is that helpful to you into? Yeah,
 
Sean Morgan  25:36
I have. I feel that in my own life, faith, faith and trust. Just another word, faith, faith is just another way of saying trust in God or whatever your orientation is. I've found that, you know, it's a it's a mystery. How do you develop faith? Where does it come from? What if you have an atheist client He says, Jim, I don't believe in God. But I want to be creative. I want to get in touch with ever, whatever the magic thing is that you're getting in touch with. How do you work with that? I mean, the general thing is based on what you're telling me, you know, leave the god part out because when you're allowing the inflow to move through you, the young is always there and you're really in that flow will figure it out. Yeah, you can't force someone
 
Shem  26:29
you know what I mean? So figured out that's that's their that's their business. It's not mine to interfere but I don't
 
Sean Morgan  26:36
need to be getting them in touch with divine energy. They may not be open to other ones
 
Shem  26:41
calling it the human force of the universe. So so but now this goes back. So So your question about the the physicists and 99% of the universe, right? I have this book right here. You're gonna you're gonna laugh. I think I should have shown it to you. So these two physicists are reading The latest discoveries of the universe. And I think this is like 2017. Books is like, we have no idea. Right? And these two guys and they have these very sweet little one of them's an illustrator, and these very sweet little cartoon sentence. It's actually there's, there's a lot in the book, you can't it's not, it's for lay readers, but you really have to, they really make you think about it. But they say, look, we know we're able to define as physicists, both subatomic and Interstellar, we know about 5% of the universe, what it is. There's another 25%, which we understand where the term these days is dark matter. And we know what that is. And, but then there's this other 70% and, frankly, we have no idea what it is. You take that. I take that too. See through him. He says, Ah, come here, but out, you're wrong. Okay. So here's the 5%, you know, right. And he's using his young force and I can hold that, you know, I might, he might wear me down, but I'm, I have more mass than he does. And, okay, now here, here's, here's the dark matter. And then there's another element where he it's beyond the Yin, to what he calls and I've heard other people call the void. And it's like where he's not there and you can't even come, you can't even connect. You can't. He's not there. He's never there. No matter what you do, no matter how you do it. And it's not just reflexes. I mean, you have to experience it to know it. But for the purposes of the interview, this is I'm telling a good story. But now, those Example See, but this is where that all ties together. And when you as a player get to certain states of playing music, where you are not playing something is playing you, yeah. Where or where you're improvising and there is a sense of some totally unplanned. Your following that you're trusting you're trusting you listen back to the recording will Wow, that really makes sense. We had none of none of us in the group had any idea that was there was no intention to do that sort of thing, but it comes through. So those are examples of letting go to a flow. An athlete in flow state where they just the incredible accomplishments move through their well trained body and they exceed anything they expected or and records get broken. More that pic so these are all examples of Touching into the flow, the flow of the universe sounds nice, right? Like the flow of urine or just, I feel better when I go.
 
Sean Morgan  30:12
Right. So I think that's appealing to a lot of people to enjoy life more to get into flow, to not have to try so hard not to put so much pressure on themselves. And it's one of the most pleasurable things to the human brain to be in flow and to be doing something that's challenging and rewarding. And, but it's not overly taxing. So if someone wants to tap into flow and learn a little bit about it from you, how would they do that?
 
Shem  30:43
You mean, how do they find me? Yeah. Oh, on the web. I'm well represented there. They can go to the website that we had discussed that you would actually inadvertently help me with was his running wolf cloud. One word running Wolf dot cloud www search me it'll come up. Yeah. And so reach me through the website. Yeah,
 
Sean Morgan  31:08
great. I will put all those links below and people can reach out to you Shem thank you so much for your time.
 
Shem  31:14
Sean it's a great pleasure wish you luck down there and I hope to talk to you soon Take care everybody Bye bye.
 
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I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus. Get the free ebook at Q and on faq.com. Did you know that you can get Q and on clothing and gifts for yourself, your loved one and your child at the link below? We're at q and on FAQ comm you can spread the word about this movement and support this channel and its mission of truth in the Great Awakening. You might be surprised at the styles, colors and merchandise we have available. The coupon code is temporary. So use the promo code q FAQ to shop at Q and on FAQ. com Hello, welcome Cristiano. Am I saying your name right?
 
Christiano Can 00:42
You're saying it right, Chris? All right. Perfect.
 
Sean Morgan  00:44
So can you tell me a little bit about what you're doing in life? I see some banana trees back there. I think where are you at right now.
 
Christiano Can 00:52At the moment, I'm in the Caribbean of Costa Rica. And considering the world just shifted
 
Christiano Can 01:00
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Christiano Can 01:01
here right before it locked up from Kenya. I was in Kenya working on some projects. And pretty much right now this has allowed me to recharge, really sit back and hone in on what matters to adjust to the value system that shifting and shifting in the world and work on a new platform and method upon which to reach and connect and share this message because social media censoring is a real thing.
 
Sean Morgan  01:31
So what is your message and what is what are the your projects all about?
 
Christiano Can 01:36
It's the simplest way to submit the messages that we are wanting
 
Christiano Can 01:43
is your ego. Your ego is what gives you your unique experience experience in this round that we go through. But we are all one. And so just breaking that down. Making that more of a reality, encouraging people to battle their cells. Before they try and get out and fight anything in this world, taking yourself first. That's pretty much my message. I do bring up politics, I talk about the medical industry. It's it's, I don't make music for entertainment. Like I have a quote that says, I'm the music of Carlin. Because if you've ever watched George Carlin, if you've ever heard the cynicism of Mark Twain, I am literally that in the music format. If you allow me I'll share some quotes and give you some some poetry later.
 
Christiano Can 02:28
But yes, that's what's going on.
 
Sean Morgan  02:30
Do you have any quotes that would kind of summarize or exemplify that spirit?
 
Christiano Can 02:39
All right, so right now I'm working on an album my first album, I've released songs I released a song from November 5 of 2018. Up until now, I've released a song on or around the fifth of every month. And since the world shifted into what I had been preparing for news, coming for about 2025 years. Like my whole medium and and how to release and strategy it just is kind of like, yeah, just just send it now all the stuff I was holding and waiting for it to be time because I always wished I was irrelevant. I always wish the message that I was sharing sharing was wrong. I wish the world that I see coming doesn't come. But as far as a quote, there's a song called Okay, it comes out the first week of September right in time for the build up into the elections. I talked about voting, but the third verse
 
Christiano Can 03:34
goes is such
 
Christiano Can 03:36
you say okay to preachers, teachers, politicians that play games while you're cheering in the bleachers. You say okay to bankers, and then returning Thank you. And later take away everything they gave you. You say okay, the leaders that only leave the line because you never asked Why? You just jumped in behind. You say okay, To governments, when the only thing their governance seriously is how to spend your funds again. I've been asked to lead. I'm saying people please read in between the lines and then walk next to me. I'm seeking the best of we. It's my destiny. I'm digging past the weeds and still planting all my seeds. You try to stop me, knowledge is like trees, lose it, you can't breathe, give us us free. And so yeah, when you hear it in a musical format with the animation that is a part of this Patreon push is needed right now. Is so needed and so yeah,
 
Christiano Can 04:36
yeah, I'm coming. So so
 
Sean Morgan  04:39
a message, your message is encapsulated in music and it's activism and it's awakening people and higher consciousness. And you're happened to be in the Caribbean right now. And you're just making music down there and doing your thing down there and communicating digitally
 
Christiano Can 04:57
is so much more than music, but yes, based on traffic travel restrictions and the fact that we don't know what's going to happen to the first wave of people that travel based on how the world has changed. Tracking, we still don't know what's going to happen over the first six months because I'm, I've been looking at this known traveler identification model that's been put out for consideration. And to say we don't have enough surveillance is an understatement. But to add an additional layer, where who knows to travel, you may have to have a screening or a test or prove that you've taken something that says you don't have this disease that's quite questionable. So I yes, reaching out a different way is of great interest until I know that travel is
 
Christiano Can 05:45
confirmed, to not have certain restrictions. So yeah, I'm just now
 
Sean Morgan  05:48
reading I really know you know, freedom of movement, which is actually supposed to be guaranteed under the UN Charter human rights. So how about This this you said that for 25 years you've known something is coming and you wish that it wasn't going to come. What are you talking about?
 
Christiano Can 06:07
I wish that my message wasn't right. Like
 
Christiano Can 06:13
I can literally talk to you about viruses. So here we go. Sure,
 
Christiano Can 06:16
go ahead. I'm trying to dumb it down. Without dumbing it up. The system dumbs you down, labeled you clowns and numbs you up, enough to knock you down to make it hard to get up. And then they give you handouts, so you don't demand much. The terrorists are the standouts, with their hands out balled in opposition of government handouts, screaming their demands loud. We just broke into an abandoned house to warm some cold limbs and feed some hungry mouths. Our road has no roadmap so the road may get rough. We're a problem to the problem. The solutions and us no more mountain now. We're mounting up since you didn't hear my voice. Now you fill out a touch. This is not just music. It's a rhythmic movement, speaking to the system through the speaker system, this is not just music. It's a rhythmic new sense, the break ins of the chains, the makings of a change, nothing Hitler did was considered illegal. It was an atrocity to the ideals of the people. Fast forward to now, can you see the sequel? These govern in aid also transparent, so see through. So see through the money, stop seeking these fortunes, see through the news and all the bullshit reporting, start seeking the truth. That's what I'm recording. I don't seek to amuse. I'm the music of Carlin. If you don't start to move now you'll be a victim of Stalin. If you're not the solution, then you may be a problem, please. Because then there's only one option. I'm busting through doors This time, we're not knocking. So yeah, that's that's called a problem to the problem. Yeah, you
 
Sean Morgan  08:06
know, you're putting out a warning signal that it's a slippery slope to fascism. And I also wish that your your message wasn't relevant, but it is relevant. It's crazy. There are a lot of trade offs out there. And it's very apparent and transparent and what they're doing. So how about in Costa Rica or wherever you're at right now? Do you feel a sense of freedom there?
 
Christiano Can 08:38
I've never been restricted or
 
Christiano Can 08:42
in a sense, far from my freedom.
 
Christiano Can 08:45
My upbringing, the people that
 
Christiano Can 08:49
gave me insurance for whatever reason, of all the people I know. I was never hindered in any way. In fact, as I look back, all I can do is say thank you, because I was the anomaly So, to be told the people that I meet the people that gravitate towards me or those that have the most adverse reactions to me, it is based on what they call freedom is like a stallion that you can't break. So if you want to ride it and you can't, it pisses you off, it disappoints you. But if you can appreciate the freedom that that stallion has to choose you, and maybe let you right that's the most beautiful thing. And so, the question of freedom is not something that I fight for. I push I share that because I realized that people are usually restricted by themselves, or their own ignorance is or our lack of understanding of what's going on.
 
Sean Morgan  09:40
Wanting to emancipate themselves from mental slavery because only you know you're on.
 
Christiano Can 09:46
Yeah, and that and I hope I can send you the link so you can see the whole thing rather than jump on it the limited stream tonight, but in in in the livestream that I'm sharing, I talk about Bob Marley I said of all the things that he got, right? The one that he got wrong hurts the most. And it's the fact that he used the term revolution. Anyone that has ever saying pushed got people to repeat the term revolution. Guess what you did you continue this cycle that's been going on for thousands of years.
 
Sean Morgan  10:16
I actually don't like the word revolution either. Although it's a very loaded word and people, some people use it to mean one thing and other people use it as another but you see people like Bernie Sanders, who he he, you know, went on his honeymoon to the Soviet Union, he kind of glorifies Chinese and Soviet communism. And he says he's a democratic socialist, although he's, you know, a capitalist millionaire, who has several houses, but he's really got all people on this whole bandwagon, and socialism is cool. And then he lets them down to two presidential elections in a row. So to me, that's the biggest scam and I think a lot of people who like me People like me who voted for Bernie in the primaries really feel a sense of like, wait a minute, if you can't even trust Bernie, who can you trust? And is this revolution? A Scam?
 
Christiano Can 11:17
Sure. Okay, so yesterday I was talking to the last few days, I've been talking to my buddy from Canada, and he's a self proclaimed philosopher. And his whole thing is that, to change the world, as we see, we need to vote, vote for people that will love and make decisions that you love. And I have an issue with this. Because as I look at the world, and I look at the spell that is called revolution, it is a spell. It has been put out so many times that we have become the most successful revolutionist ever. The cry for the fight against corruption and politics, finances, social and economic situations. It's the same thing. Ronco The same way unforeseeable didn't believe it, the dark age, all of it, we're looking at the same thing happened all over again. So I have an issue when people say vote, I have an issue when people say anything that has already been tried, how can we keep trying to do the same thing over and over again expecting different results? There's a definition from that, that you know, so why do you vote at this point? What is the value of voting? If you look at the history of revolutions in the history of cycles, when has voting ever shifted anything and if I want to just take it to extremes, slavery never ended. In fact, the bankers that came from Europe, they stated when they came in saw the slave system in the United States, they were like, Guys, you have you don't have to do it this way. We have created a system where we don't need to feed them. We don't need to house them. We don't need to name them. You don't To talk to them, and we definitely don't need to beat them. In fact, they'll don't do all that on their own. We have created a banking system, a financial system that will do this for the blacks, the reds, the greens, the orange, and the yellows. So slavery didn't end because someone voted for it. But if anything, it was it was the fight for it. And in the end, it just shifted because no one really knew how deep the tentacles went. However, it's nothing that was dramatic ever stop, because some people say, here's a vote, I vote for this. It doesn't happen. So you know, on what you look at and believe in, um, and even seen it come to the extreme with Bernie. How do you look at voting right now? Do you still see that as an option?
 
Sean Morgan  13:48
Yeah, that's a really good question. You know, part of the problem is that the system has been somewhat broken and so people don't have trust in institutions like Like democracy, like the voting system, like the government, like the financial system, these institutions haven't served them. They've been so broken that some people are saying, burn it all down. But I don't think that's the solution either. I don't think that anarchie is a solution. I actually think we need to reform the institution's. Of course, we need to do something new and different. But some things are like incredibly simple, like, term limits for Congress people, so they can't be in Congress for 50 years, and and keep everything antiquated or like, audits of politicians in their families. So we can look at their bank accounts and see if they're receiving payoffs and bribes and, and benefiting financially. I mean, those are just two little things that if we added that to our system, everything would improve a lot. So that wouldn't be perfect. But But I happen to think that we have some institutions late and we have something called the Constitution. That is time tested, and it is really valuable. And at the same time, we got to do something new, like whether it's decentralized technology. I'm really into like blockchain and DLT, just decentralized ledger technology. So that can be applied to voting that can be applied to public accounting. And so we can take new tools and reform institutions. So what are your thoughts?
 
Christiano Can 15:24
So I can give you one, your very first point about term limits. let's let's let's apply this to Africa. In Africa, there are term limits. So what do people do have term limits? They do everything they can to get all the people they need, and rape all the resources they can during their term. I don't think term limits are really going to help the situation when you look at what is done. So yeah, Congress can stay are there certain seats, but what is the president gonna do? Going to make sure that his initiatives and interest continue for the next administration the best they can like I I just have an issue inherently with the flawed system that is everything needs a moment to be redone. And if you really look at it, what runs our system that we live in? capitalism? Money? What is money an idea? What is currency? The physical thing that gives an idea, real value to someone? And what is that a magic trick? So if anything, were under a spell of a magic trick, because if you can buy a boat, or buy someone's incentive, or motivation, there is what is a boat other than part of a system? Like Well,
 
Sean Morgan  16:36
yeah, we talked about before we started the recording, we talked about using tools to exchange value, right, and this is this is pretty fundamental stuff. And, and I think it would be so cool if people like you and me get together and we figure out our own way of exchanging value instead of using these corrupt institutions. So that's why I like things like Bitcoin. And aetherium and all these decentralized systems for doing so. But what what do you think? What do you think are some ways that we can, we can create the more beautiful world our hearts know as possible.
 
Christiano Can 17:14
So here's the thing, and I'm so glad we got to meet in this format. And we did have a chat before. I think these are these will continue. So it's good to meet you. I do welcome a form with really open minded, rational beings because we are in the midst of a shift that gives us time to make something that's never been done before. I've always said, Guys, I know what the world looks like with money in every form or fashion, whether I have unlimited access to it, or none. I've seen it it's been seen for every generation of everyone that we know every book, every poem, every story, every history, no has been written with this in existence. And so my only challenge to anyone that will sit with me and give a consideration is let's create a system where that does not exist. I will do anything to see a world without money. And it's not that it's gonna be better or worse. It's the fact that I don't know who doesn't want to see something you've ever seen during this the span that they have access to? I would, I would love to see it or be a part of it. But I just don't know what's gonna happen in Cristiano is going to be better? I don't know. But I want to see it. I want to see it. Well,
 
Sean Morgan  18:23
yeah. And I'm sure you're experimenting with different ways of big time relating to people. Can you tell me some different ways?
 
Christiano Can 18:30
So let's thing my album is actually called money can't kill music. In 2010 I gave away everything that I owned every worldly possession. I walked away from my Corporation. pass it on to the people that were a part of it and I disappeared. I promised myself that living the life that I lived and seeing the things that I had seen. I could see that hey, I can live off of the world's trash. Do you realize how many usable things are discarded just because I can get a new one. Just because I don't want to fix that
 
Sean Morgan  19:04
just because I live in Brazil part of the year and Brazil does does things very differently from the US. It's a it's a society of scarcity. And so people, they recycle everything, including napkins, including little pieces of plastic and saran wrap, they recycle, everything goes to the recycling, and people don't throw away microwaves and speakers who are broken, that are broken, they, they repair them repairing things is very big. And the reason why they do that is because of the high taxes and fees to buy new things. So I'm not saying that the Brazilian systems better they're both systems are unbalanced. I think in America, it's it's crazy the amount of Planned obsolescence they're basically you make you make stuff so that it will break down in a year and you buy the new version of it and then you just throw everything into a big trash heap. So that's very unhealthy. But what you have in Brazil is that people don't have a feeling of freedom because they're there, they feel poor that they're not able to get the things they need or want because of the taxation.
 
Christiano Can 20:17
Okay, why say so just just walk with me through this example. Tomorrow, Shawn, if you and I woke up, and money did not exist, every bank account, every bit of currency under the surface in your wallet, it just disappeared. Do you realize the electricity will still be on? The wind would still be blind. The plants would still be growing, the cars would still be rolling, the oil will still be pumping. Nothing would change. Money doesn't move anything.
 
Sean Morgan  20:49
Yeah, you know, I think if our consciousness as a as a species was higher, then we could do it and it would be the best thing ever. I The thing that's scary to me would be the might makes right mentality would take over and people would still dominate over others and they would form their own kind of, I mean even chimpanzees have used money and prostitution. I don't know if you've seen that before but but you don't have to have printing presses for people to use that hierarchy of control and dominance through so what about in your life besides just kind of like giving up on on material possessions for a while? How do you interact with other people and and get a place to live and and all the the practicalities?
 
Christiano Can 21:50
Without going in too far into detail, the I don't own a cell phone. And the reason is, because everyone around me has at least two Why do I need one? So when I when I, when it came to having homes and places to stay, I mean, I'm around people that have a home somewhere, a guest house, and you
 
Sean Morgan  22:11
must add enough value to their life that they are willing to share.
 
Christiano Can 22:16
And that's the exchange. That's all it is. That's all it is, is not about anything more than that the value system is changing right in front of us, but you just pinned it is it? It's the it's the value that has no words. And you can't monetize it with anything other than the exchange of presence. But yeah, my his gift is presence when I'm with someone and around someone present, and they're present and that creates other things that happen in the present. So yeah, it's it's it's magical in a way.
 
Sean Morgan  22:45
I had a guest on my show named Harold cots, Vela. And he said that when you get in to when you tune yourself into that kind of vibration, it's weird how things come To you and just appear in your life and are gifted to you. He said literally he had packages arrive in the mail and he didn't know where they came from or why. So So what have you received? That's been a surprise miracle kind of thing. Do you have any examples?
 
Christiano Can 23:19
I have so many miracles in my life and miracle workers if I want to use that word.
 
Christiano Can 23:29
I don't know where to start, man. I think every single day I wake up. I live in this thing that is unexplainable. Unless you're with me. Whoever you said, I want that name. But yes, things just happen. When you let go. When you let go and allow things to fill in gaps. And just put the intention on it. It happens. And I'm gonna come back to this intention, like the power of intention and this goes back to revolution. We talked about this word The world has put their intention on the word revolution since forever. And what has happened, the revolutions have been successful, we were the most successful revolutionists in the world, because it keeps happening and over and over again. So put your intention on something else. And be sincere about it. A lot of people want stuff in things based on value systems that were that there's based on comparisons to other things to say this is worth something. And that doesn't get you there. It takes an elevated awareness. And I believe that the consciousness of everything on this planet, everything from the plants to the creatures is raising. However, everything won't make it to the next level where we are communicating or accessing these possibilities in a different realm. Death is a part of change. It's not a bad thing. It's just a part of a life cycle. And so we're going through something right now, but everyone's not gonna make it but the few that do Gonna bring to a paradigm that we don't even have words for no one saw the Renaissance until after years of like, recognizing the art and literature and rhetoric that came through. I think we're entering that moment and I believe that I'm making the music that's gonna kick it off and be a part of the early wave. But yeah, with a nice,
 
Sean Morgan  25:19
nice and so what do you mean by some people aren't going to make it? I mean, I have in my mind the story of the book Revelation where the sinful go to a pit of fire, and maybe they're extinguished, and maybe they don't exist anymore. And then the new heaven in New Earth appears and then the children of God never experienced suffering again. But what what do you how do you see or envision or imagine or maybe it's a big mystery, but do you have any hints on it?
 
Christiano Can 25:51
So
 
Christiano Can 25:54
I have I have, I'll just give you the the quotes from this one piece that is just two questions. Maybe a world without? is a world without growth. Maybe a world without pain is the word without hope. I have a world of ideas and even more I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I do see that with the way the world just slow down. This, this.
 
Christiano Can 26:23
This unnecessary stoppage
 
Christiano Can 26:27
backfired in the sense that people have given thing considerations that they never had. There are processes in motion that never would have been as consequence consequences to this one crazy goal for humanity. It's like Wait, so you stop people from working. They're sitting around people that they usually don't get to stop with, whether it's their children, their loved ones, they reevaluate in relationships. They're not just talking foolishness on the phone to their friends now. Now it's like I don't even talk to you anymore because that's not really fun anymore. Or things have shifted. So when I say that everyone's not going to make it, we're under attack. And from every direction, whether it's economical, spiritual, socially, medically, we are being ripped apart by every single thing in the divide and conquer book. And so the people that won't make it are those that aren't willing to become something new. Because it's hard to fathom that the world is changing. It's like and we're
 
Sean Morgan  27:30
saying, Where will they go? Will they be stuck with each other?
 
Christiano Can 27:32
No, there's a lot of death coming, a death from depression and stress. There's going to be depth from a lack of change in diet and awareness of what's going into your system. There's going to be death from fights and just the the eruptions of very volatile people that must take place. It just it just has to happen some fight. You need to step back and realize neither side was gonna make it but when I say People aren't going to make it. Everyone doesn't make it over the same hurdles. And right now we're going through a big hurdle collectively, everyone doesn't make it right now, if you were in high school, and you looked at 50 people and said, Let's run over the hurdles, you know, we're looking at 1418 year olds, and probably 70% of them won't make it over a single hurdle, let alone the second and third. So that's what I'm saying there is there is a filtering process taking place.
 
Sean Morgan  28:25
I'm going to bring this to Q, which Q has said that doesn't matter how much disclosure you have, if you show all the information or all the high crimes against humanity, that the elites have done, and you show that to the public, there will be four to 6% of people who have just been brainwashed so much that they'll never be able to accept the truth. So that that would be maybe the people who don't make it so to speak, where they'll be just kind of stuck in the prison of their own mind. So what you mentioned, divide and conquer and I can't think of a better example, than the The race war that's being fomented right now by the media, Hollywood, Black Lives Matters and Tifa. And what's interesting is that it seems like whichever presidential candidate gets the black vote, as they call it, which is kind of demeaning way of putting it. Whoever gets that group of people and it's a very kind of arbitrary, you know, way that they try to, to divide people into groups, but whoever gets that group according to them, and according to the pollsters wins the election. So there's a lot of importance on this group of people. And we have Black Lives Matters. It's like a whole ideology. You have the some of the founders have dropped out because they don't agree with the ideology has gone other founders or, or like strictly Marxist, communist revolutionaries. And now you see every like Nickelodeon and Disney putting Black Lives Matters out too. Little kids, and, and everyone's giving money to Black Lives Matters. And a lot of black people are also coming out and saying, hey, Black Lives Matters doesn't care about black lives. So can you tell me from your perspective, I'm guessing you're American from your accent. Tell it tell me about Black Lives Matters.
 
Christiano Can 30:25
Black Lives Matter was something that started with a good initiative.
 
Christiano Can 30:33
In and of itself, it was it was it started off
 
Christiano Can 30:36
with a good intention. However, if you look at how fast and how early it changed, and following the money lines now, the connections to Soros and the comments about the connections and Tifa it is it's tainted. However, the issue goes beyond Black Lives Matter. I have a problem with that. term I would never identify. I don't call myself black. I don't really identify with the term black because no one that looks like me ever call themselves black. No one in the United States ever call themselves a Native American. No one in
 
Christiano Can 31:17
in.
 
Sean Morgan  31:19
I don't really like calling myself a white person I have like, you know, 10 different 10 different European lines inside of me.
 
Christiano Can 31:27
So that's why when black it's just put so simply, it's like, Whoa, this is so weird. I'm not. I don't identify that. I was actually the president of the Black Student Association, but no one you would not hear me walking around stating this, that and the third. My association with the term black as it relates to me was listening to James Brown. I'm black and I'm proud and realizing what he was saying but not really getting the separation of races. So Black Lives Matter is when we look at titles and terms, I don't give a damn who or what You put on there, you can say white Lives Matter white power organization. I look at what you do. I don't give I don't look, Google. Google is just a name. They took the name of a number followed by 100 zeros and made it a company. No one knew what it was. Microsoft just a name is what you do. And so when I look at what's been done, I have an issue with pretty much everything right now. But what was it four days ago, I had a buddy on social media who went and tried to donate to Black Lives Matter. And she did follow the money chain, the questionable money chain and people think is Oh, no, no, it followed right up the line to an organization is donating to nothing but limit kradic interest. And so
 
Sean Morgan  32:40
it's called act blue. And it's something that q has put out there. You know, Q is he was giving us certain roads and paths to look on for information and he puts a video from Candice Owens, but Candace Owens got it from someone else. But the point is that that informations being put out out there for people who are tuning in to the queue drops. And yes, you're right, that's Black Lives Matters, you donate to them. It goes to act blue act blue takes it donates it to the Democratic Party candidates. It's just a slush fund. It's just a front organization.
 
Christiano Can 33:17
Now, here's here's something that I want to talk to you about explicitly. This is what I believe in queueing on and Trump
 
Christiano Can 33:26
Do you support Trump? Or is it what Trump has done? And I'm gonna give you some some some
 
Sean Morgan  33:35
like you, I don't know what I don't care what you call it. I don't care how you paint it. I don't. It's all about action, baby. And that's, that's why I support Trump because of what he's done.
 
Christiano Can 33:45
Okay, now, and I just for your viewers, a lot of people because I'm probably talking to the choir that gets it but a lot of people don't support what Trump is doing because they don't support Trump. They associate him With what he was or what he was seeing in the media, the portrayals the quotes the misquotes, the out of context, in context, whatever you he was judged before he ever got into this chair. And so his actions, the executive orders, the the child trafficking, arrest. These are things that fall, second, third, fourth, fifth fiddle to what mass media is putting in your face. And so I didn't know anything about Trump and what he had done until five months ago because I didn't watch it. I'm not into politics. I don't believe in people that just can't get paid to be put into the position can legally be queried by lobbyists and have pretty much virtual time to just keep being reelected for nothing this job, what's his name? Biden wants to be president How many years has been he'd been in Congress, and how many years it'd be trying to make change. You're trying to change the same things that have been there forever. Why will making you president change anything? It's the weirdest concept ever, but Here's my thing when it comes to Trump, and when I look at what's been done, I have read through almost every executive order. I went through every email in Obama gate. I have really jumped in and just dissected this because I don't need anyone to be a lot
 
Sean Morgan  35:15
for someone who wasn't into politics.
 
Christiano Can 35:18
No, but I'm into information that is effective. And it was kind of hard to really believe that thing stated in pizza gate until I read it. And then I got two videos from very trusted sources that I refused to put online as it related to the computer that was taken from Podesta there was there's an E there's a video of a little boy in a shower being burned with hot water, while Podesta screaming at him saying, What's my name? What's my name? And the boy says something he says no, what's my other name? And it's just like guys, this is insane than the other one. So as I went through this stuff, I was like, Okay, look, if I'm looking at everything if I want to go from one anonymous and I were in communication, all and just acting together all the way up into now looking at Q, and these drops and these awarenesses and the fact that it's coated in a military slash, very, very cryptic, but concise language, which I know from just things I did in the past. This is a tricky line, because if Trump doesn't get to the JSR, nesara implementation,
 
Christiano Can 36:33
then I just think we're going red and blue again, I hear
 
Sean Morgan  36:37
somebody has to change so drastically, or else we'll just end up with the same crappy institutions, the same corruption. That's why I mentioned term limits and and another thing would be voter ID to prevent that kind of voting fraud. But But yeah, I think that there's a dangerous thing if especially like If the Democratic Party implodes, which is what I think is going to happen, we don't want to have a one party system. That's what China has. And it doesn't work well for them and their people. So we need, we need some something new, we need a new fresh look. And the surge, Asara would definitely kick us in the right direction of like a debt Jubilee, getting people to have economic freedom, or at least not economic slavery. But you know, what happens with lottery ticket people, you give them a million bucks, and they spend it all and they're right back to where they were before. We need a consciousness shift. So how, how does that happen? You know,
 
Christiano Can 37:36
I think that what we're talking about is almost misanthropic in nature, because we're kind of like, yeah, even if we change it, the humans are going to go back to the same stupid shit again, not necessarily. The thing is because of revolutions, we've always seen things repeat. So even as you and I speak, and you share that is this. Yeah, but this is going to happen anyway. No think right now. If this happened four years ago with the war climate like siren Asara, yes, it would fall into a similar construct. When things are redone and re put into place. The world just stopped is not just one country. It's not just one continent, the world just stop. So everyone is looking, everyone is paying attention. Everyone is giving consideration. Like right now, the United States is the key Domino to everything that's going to happen in the world, because they have the largest media platform. And so many things have followed the Western culture for the past 80 years. But right now, we have seen uprisings all over the world. They just didn't happen in the United States. And I was telling people this over and over again, I'm like, Guys, yeah, that's Yeah, that's as good to see. But until the United States does it, it's not even if Russia even to Germany until the United States hits this, this this this tipping point, or Yeah, yeah. And so right now, just imagine What was it a week ago? 10 days ago? There were a mom left there were considering going and rushing the White House, like an empty for mom, like, Are you serious? Do you realize what what happened in the United States? If that took place, people don't want martial law to happen. And it couldn't have happened. It could have been kicked in already. It's created it didn't. But no one is giving credit to the decision not to do it. With all this taking place, Seattle. I mean, look, what is being done. It's never been done before, to sit and take over a section of land that you can't grow anything on. You can't go in and out of. It has nothing to statement. It's like it's lost. Because there's no leadership to really push the bar. You have attention and what's happening now is getting boring. It's like Okay, okay, how long is this gonna last? It's not like Do we have something different we we have to do something different and that's the hardest thing. Like to be creative. To be a content creator means that you have to Do something increase on screen something that people are interested in, and likely that someone isn't doing or isn't doing the same. That in of itself is a leap. But to bring in a whole world or a whole city or a whole town, or a whole village, it the possibility of saying, Hey, guys, we're never going to do this, again, from this point on. This is the base. And we're going to go from here, that men, I welcome to do this with you and a small group on a semi consistent basis. I wrote something while I wrote a challenge to the world. I said, look, I think that money and incentive and creativity have become entangled, and we need to separate them. But we also need to show how powerful and how powerless money is, and the ones that hold the money have no power, we don't believe in it. So my proposal was that on November 15, for 60 days, that and if you think about what those days include from the holidays, or the change of the year, and so forth, if I For those 60 days, as a collective, we chose not to spend any money on any goods or services. That means we're digging in our cupboards, we're going to our neighbors, we're sharing we're thinking, because I think there's enough food and resources that this can be done for 60 days when not a single bit of currency is spent on anything. It will change so much in 60 days, 60 days to change the world just by removing the use of something. That's it. That's it. After 60 days use it. It's just a fast, let's go on the money fast for 60 days, I promise you the world will change before we even make it. So I have these little things I wrote about it. I'll send that to you too. When we finish Okay,
 
Sean Morgan  41:42
yeah, yeah, I'll put a link for everyone to read it in the description. I think it's good to imagine a different world that's the way you materialize it first, you have to imagine it.
 
Sean Morgan  41:56
So
 
Sean Morgan  41:58
I guess you know, I I can relate to you a lot because I had these dreams. And I felt very strongly about it I spent about a year. So traveling to different intentional communities in the United States trying to figure out, hey, where can I get with a group of like minded people that I can create, like this beautiful network community where we can share stuff. And actually, it was a sad experience. I went to about 10 different intentional communities in the United States. And it was mostly hippies, who were dirty, disorganized, they were all having sex with each other. And there was no real higher consciousness. It was really a bunch of people with their traumas, trying to work it all out, and they weren't doing a very good job at it. And it really turned me off. And I ended up realizing, hey, maybe the family units have a father, a mother and a child. Like maybe there's a reason why we have all this separation, because we're Just not ready for it. And I don't know. So have you experienced what I'm talking about where people try to do intentional community, but they're really not ready for it
 
Christiano Can 43:11
is two things I'm hearing when you say that. So
 
Christiano Can 43:16
the good part is that they they're gonna make that step is similar to what we're talking now, what is needed to change, it's like, I know I need to get out of here. So it's like I made it out of here. So when I look at these communities, they make the step the reason you went to go see them is because they stepped away from where you were. And so you had to make the effort and so their boxes and their little microcosms have things that you wouldn't expect but it has to start it has right
 
Sean Morgan  43:46
that's the healing process right. Guide all that, that crap out and there's we have a lot of healing to do. There is a lot of trauma just from a regular culture.
 
Christiano Can 43:56
Oh, yeah. The the need, the more The I Am culture
 
Sean Morgan  44:02
Yeah, yeah I selfie culture.
 
Christiano Can 44:06
That is right we, um
 
Christiano Can 44:10
right now what are you working on though? What are you working on with your community? Like you do the interviews? And I know you break down the queues but, and this is more personal like, outside What are you working on yourself with? Is it meditation to go within? Are you writing? Are you reading like, what are you doing to get better for this transition that's taking place?
 
Sean Morgan  44:33
Yeah, so I do want to buy a farm and be more self sufficient. But my main thing I'm doing is trying to keep a one and a half year old alive. When you're a parents, your priorities go from like all of your personal dreams and aspirations to like keeping this little human healthy. And there's so much altruism that you never had no you had in you until you become a parent. And same thing when you become a spouse I got married almost two years ago. And so I went from living for myself to living for someone else and then we had a child and now I'm really 100% almost living for for someone else. So it's really day by day you know, it's kind of chaotic being being a parent, but I'm happy that I'm able to balance my life more than when I had a nine to five because when I had a nine to five, I was putting my life source energy into that Corporation and I didn't have a lot left to give to my family. So now it's like, you know what, I'm going to tell this person that I can't interview them for another hour because I need to babysit and I need to do this and that's and so I'm just getting down to some basics with that but I am going to be buying a farm and and I am going to be inviting people to go there and and create sustainable, healthy business and so forth.
 
Christiano Can 46:04
How is
 
Christiano Can 46:07
an effect what you just said? In fact, I'll say it now. So I have a conversation coming up with someone. And the reason that we even agreed to speak is because she posed this question. She was like, how many farms and individual farming projects do we need when we realize we're just further segmenting? Why do you need your own farm? Why do you why like, at what point do we realize that's not even it? And so, considering all the farms that are in the on the earth is just one big farm. But considering all the places right now, Shawn, that you can go and be welcomed, you can go and build a house or move in, not be charged just based on you as an individual. You can go Why do you need your own? Why aren't you looking to join or be a part of something that you can influence?
 
Sean Morgan  46:54
Good question, because I'm not some kind of person who's never experimented with this kind of stuff. I mean, I I traveled internationally for three years and I did couch surfing and work away and I gave just like you I gave people some value. Maybe I taught their kids English and they gave me a place to live and, and so forth. And so it's not foreign. It's not a foreign idea to me to do something like that. I think it's, it's just a matter of that I'm not doing this just for myself my own comfort level I'm trying to consider my wife and, and what's what makes sense for her for creating a home environment for a child and her comfort level and, and so that that's what we've settled on so far, but it's just constantly evolving. But hey, you know, tell me more about what you're doing and maybe we'll want to join you.
 
Christiano Can 47:51
Right now, I am entering the realm of Patreon where finally for the past, what is it 10 years. I have been literally doing everything without money, minimum financial resources I have taken I gave up on money and believe in people. And I have accomplished when I show people like the music, the animations, the musical, the motion featuring in the works, and all of the things that have come. How much did this cost? Where did this come from us and me and these people, they wanted to do it, who had the skill, set collective resources and found a way we just did it? And I tried to explain, I would rather do something with people that want to do it, then people that are experts that do it for money, because let's just say I wanted to build this beautiful house, I take the schematics to the number one architecture firm in the world. And they're like, hey, Christian, we'll build this for $5 million. I'm like, cool. And then I go to the another group of students sitting around chillin they have built in made things I show it to them and they're like, do we still want to build this? We got a few ideas. Okay, what if we change this? Now, as the house is big begins to be built, there's a crack a crack found in the foundation. The people that got the $5 million, well, you can't go back and start over. Let's fill in the crack and keep going. The crew is doing it for no funds off of their own interests, no timeline, they're gonna buy a deal. We got a crack in the foundation. Let's tear down and make it better. Not only did you go down and fix the foundation, even what you did that you tore down the second time around, you make it better. And so it's a good example of how money alienates people and makes them less personally invested. And this is why I'm jumping to Patreon because I got all of I got my whole crew and I have developed an understanding that this is how I work. You can't pay me to do anything. You can't pay me to paint you can't, I have to want to do it. And so the exchange that I'm open now to take the action change of energy that is money, because the value system is shifting. And now it's time to kill the money system within and of itself. It's about the flip over. And that's why I said money can't kill music. I'm finally open to accepting this energy because so many people have wanted to support, but I just didn't know how to let them into my world because I didn't want any expectations. I didn't want people to say, Yeah, I did that. Or Christina did that because me, it's like, Whoa, we did this or nothing happened. And so now with Patreon, not only can you contribute, but I can give back. I can give this energy to people right now that need a meal, I feed people before I give them money. I hug people before I send a text message. And so with Patreon, I can do so many more things for the we around the world and keep all of this art and moments of awareness coming directly to those that need it and is able to share with those that need to be aware of it. So yeah, what am I doing now? I am changing the whole tears to meet us. I'm trying to read read We right now.
 
Sean Morgan  51:02
You know, I did an interview with Sasha stone and he was in the middle of this. One of the most beautiful buildings I've ever seen. It's called the New Earth project or something like that. And, and I was like, Wow, that is so beautiful. He's like, thank you. I designed it. But you know, every time we talked about some kind of big project, he would be like, yeah, I started it. But now I don't really do anything with it. Other people are doing it and I don't. He was like, what's the secret? You know, how did how were you so successful getting this started, and this started in this and you have this big building and it's beautiful. And he's like, Well, actually, it was just a matter of like letting other people do things. It wasn't really about me doing it. It was just like, get a not get people just allow people to come in and play their role and he was very specific that it had to be like higher consciousness rational, good hearted people. So I guess that's part of your Your journey to write is to just associate with those types of people or do you have processes that you work with to allow people to get through those like, like I talked about those hippie communes where everyone was dealing with traumas and stuff? Do you? Do you have processes to flush that crap out? Or do you just kind of improvise in life?
 
 
 
Christiano Can 52:23
Everyone? Everyone that I encounter, I take them on as the individual that they are, who has a history that brought them to this step in front of me that I don't know, the millions of seconds that took place before you got here? I don't know. So the traumas, the different characteristics, I take you as you are, but when you come to me, the first thing is we're going to work and build and create together. There is no ego in my environment. Because I believe that there is a collective awareness that's been here forever, and my ability to tap into it because my childlike freedom was never hindered. It's Taken away, I still have the ability to say some of the things that a three to six year old is going to say to you and make you say, Wait, where did that come from? I look at my writings. And I tell people I'm like, I don't remember writing this. Yes, I did. But I don't remember writing this, this, this. But yeah, let's go sing it. So read the removal of Eagle. I don't, I don't care who you are, how you smell. If we can look II and get to a certain court. I'm gonna do my best and delegate the rest. So in my delegation, this person fits and they're willing, able and ready to do it. Go do it. Because there's
 
Sean Morgan  53:43
more, connect more with it. We'll get off get off the hamster wheel of the rat race and just connect with people a little bit more and you'd be surprised at the wealth and the what we can build together. Yeah, yeah, that's a good look. We should we should wrap up on that note, because I don't think we can get any more productive. than that.
 
Christiano Can 54:02
If I do pat myself on the back
 
Sean Morgan  54:06
I think this this summarized it well, that's the that's the American Sign Language for take on humanity is going to just skyrocket in potential when we when we just connect with each other more.
 
Christiano Can 54:18
And you see it, you can see it so Yeah, I agree with you, man. I really appreciate it.
 
Sean Morgan  54:22
99% of people are have good hearts and the other 1% are just really, really traumatized. You can be traumatized. Maybe there can be a you can have
 
Christiano Can 54:33
a heart and still be traumatized, though. Yeah, here you can have a good heart and still be traumatized. Sure. And trauma is so subjective, that it's just a weird thing. How can you pull out something that you don't know is trauma? I mean, people that say, Christiana, when I think of my life, I've never been traumatized. And it's like, I can't say that's true or false, because a lot of traumas aren't even known to be traumas until something traumatic brings them out of game. So yeah, we're raising the bar. Grayson, I really appreciate this moment in what you do. Yes.
 
Sean Morgan  55:03
Is it for your time and we will connect. I'm going to tell you all about my patreon experience and we can help each other out because that's what's all about.
 
Christiano Can 55:13
Victor.
 
Sean Morgan  55:15
Victor, thank you for your time Cristiano. If people want to learn more about you, how do they get to their your Patreon page and, and find out more.
 
Christiano Can 55:22
You can type in on Patreon, you can just type in Christianity, or you can go to Christianity camp calm, and it'll take you there as well. Well, yeah, I'm just getting started and any support. Trust me goes a long way. I'm putting the largest collection of 432 hertz music online, I have the largest trove of 432 hertz music live on the planet. And so because of the way compressors work, because of the frequency of 440 because of this thing that has permeated humanity for too long. I believe that if I take it to the major streaming platforms It's going to get diluted and changed. So what I'm going to do is I'm going to give it to the people directly on Patreon to be able to download this audio so that you're not hearing it go through the compressors and modified, you're going to hear this music as it was created, whether it's the rehearsals or the professional recordings, and be able to be and feel this time. It's so that's one of my biggest initiatives is the reemergence and the introduction of 432 hertz to the world. 440 is is disconnecting us and it even if you take all the Florida fluoride out the water, if you turn off the televisions and your phone if you play music that is tuned in for 40 is still got you is still working. So yeah, I'm just trying to bring harmony back.
 
Sean Morgan  56:40
Well, what I'm gonna do is I'm going to download some of your songs, listen to them and see if I can feel the difference.
 
Christiano Can 56:46
I'm going to send you I'll get better.
 
Sean Morgan  56:48
Now I'm getting back. Let's see on the result. It'll be a little experiment for us.
 
Christiano Can 56:53
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Herbal Antivirals in the Age of COVID19

6/25/2020

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Joy's article with link to Buhner article inside it is below. http://joycarey.com/
 
https://www.stephenharrodbuhner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/coronavirus.txt.pdf
 
*This is not medical advice.
 
I’m sending this out as education. This information is from a man named Stephen Harrod Buhner. He wrote a book called Herbal Antivirals and another book called Healing Lyme. Both are great resources regarding what’s happening right now. Healing Lyme is a good resource because he teaches how our immune system works in the beginning of it. I recommend his writing; he has changed the way I perceive the world.
 
I trust this author because I’ve seen clients heal themselves with his information and I’ve used his information to heal from a chronic viral infection I contracted in 2008. Conventional medical care had no solution for me when I contracted Dengue, and luckily I discovered herbs and I used his information to titrate this infection out of my nervous system about eight years after I contracted it. Herbs are not in my scope of practice and there are a lot of amazing herbalists, naturopaths, and functional medicine doctors out there that may have important information to offer. I’m just a Bodyworker that works with manual manipulation and movement. I’m also a human being that has the freedom to use plants to heal myself. I feel moved to share this information with you an easy-to-understand format.
 
Here is a summary from this article from S. H. Buhner. I recommend reading the whole thing if you want to understand how SARS-CoV-2 works.
 
https://www.stephenharrodbuhner.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/coronavirus.txt.pdf
 
An important distinction to understand is that the virus that media is talking about is called SARS-CoV-2. The illness it creates is called COVID-19.
 
Summary:
 
Herbs that protect our cells that receive SARS-CoV-2 into our system are:
Licorice, Chinese Skullcap, Elder, Horse Chestnut, Japanese Knotweed, Olive leaf, Biden’s, Cordyceps, and Grape seed extract. Plants or food high in procyanidins and lectins are also protective to these cells. That includes legumes, grains, nightshades, berries, red wine, apples, and avocados.
 
Herbs that help the function and creation of this receptor cell are:
Kudzu, Dan Shen, Gingko Biloba, and Hawthorn These herbs protect our lungs from injury
 
The thing that’s so problematic about this virus is where it lives in our bodies. It damages the cilia and aveoli in our lungs. From that damage, a storm of inflammation rushes to the area, and that is the process that is most harmful to our bodies. It’s our bodies “Hail-Mary” approach. (Hail Mary is a phrase from football that describes a last-resort play.) Our immune system is more equipped and more likely to throw the Hail-Mary when our sympathetic nervous system is on high alert, when we’re in fight/fight/freeze mode, and when we are inundated with fear.
 
The virus can replicate more with some of those inflammatory molecules that are part of the Hail-Mary. In turn, the damage continues with the aid of our own immune system. When our immune aids in the illness, it is called COVID-19.
 
There are a lot of things that can be done for ourselves before the problem becomes COVID-19 in our bodies.
 
The main herbs to help down-regulate the substances in our immune system that SARS-CoV-2 uses to proliferate are:
 
Angelica Sinensis (Don Quai ir Female Ginseng) and Astralagus, Japanese Knotweed, Chinese Skullcap, Cordyceps, Kudzu, and Boneset
 
The body will repair lung tissue after the host cell dies. Herbs that aid in this process adapt to our immune system’s needs which reduces the effects of autoimmunity.
 
Those herbs are:
 
Rhodiola, Astralagus, Cordyceps
 
Eating protein is important for this tissue repair and Japanese Knotweed aids in repairing the endothelial cells that become damaged. Also, Pineapple has a certain constituent that is helpful in repairing deeper lung tissue.
 
Protecting the spleen and lymph system is important to prevent the infection from turning into COVID-19. Those herbs are:
Red Root, Chinese Skullcap, Licorice, and Bidens
 
Herbs that aid in stimulating the cells to fully develop that replace the damaged cells are: Cordyceps, licorice, red root, elder, and zinc
 
I’m taking measures to prevent infection in myself, and now I’m sharing this information with you. The herbs or supplements that you can take safely to protect yourself are Cordyceps, Licorice, Elder, Chinese Skullcap, Grape Seed Extract, Astralagus, Rhodiola, and Zinc
*Licorice is one herb that shouldn’t be taken for more than three weeks in a row if it’s not actually treating something. So, take a break with it before three weeks. It doesn’t cause harm to anything usually; the body stops utilizing it after about three weeks.
 
Sean Morgan  00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus. Get the free ebook at Q and on faq.com. Hello, I'm here with my friend joy Carrie. And so she is a body worker joy. Can you give us a quick introduction of who you are and what you do?
 
joy Carrie  00:22
Yeah, my name is Joy. And I do kind of bodywork called structural integration. And I incorporate different principles from bird hollingers family constellation work and astrology and my own mediumship capabilities into my practice.
 
Sean Morgan  00:42
Okay, interesting. And so you reached out to me about something that you're feeling very passionate about, which is the fact that there's a pandemic going on worldwide and people are in fear People are going to the hospital, they're going to the doctor. They are not being given, usually in a standard format in the United States, they're not really being given any treatment options whatsoever. So, for example, they can't get their hands on hydroxychloroquine or zinc or vitamin C, or get any of these recommendations from like a standard medical practice. And people are just at home, they're not getting the sunlight. They're not getting the fresh air. They were in a mask, their social distancing, they're not getting love and affection. And so it's just a bad recipe for the immune system. And I think a lot of people just feel like they're stuck in victimhood right now. They feel that there's nothing they can do. And I think that's due to lack of knowledge. You know, I did an interview with Dr. Nick poot, who is a chiropractor, and he was on the recent documentary called The plan demick. And he talked about how you can actually get chloric when the root tree bark herb from drinking soda water, basically, tonic water. So so that's one thing that's like, you know, it's not medical advice. It's just saying, hey, it's not going to hurt you to drink tonic water, and you get some benefits of the the tree bark. And so you can take zinc, you can take vitamin C, you can get sunlight, there are things that you can do so, joy, can you tell me a little bit about the resources that you read as far as Steven Bruner and the article you wrote and what your goal was behind that?
 
joy Carrie  02:45
Yeah. Well, I've been a very big fan of Steven Herod Spooner, who's an author and a writer. And he's, to me, he's like a modern day throw. So he wrote a book called herbal antivirals I actually have it right next to me. And he in the book, he actually says that there isn't a pandemic right now like SARS, but there there will be if Western medicine is comprehensively applied as as it is now. So that
 
Sean Morgan  03:20
means that there because of Western medicine application that things mutate and become stronger. What does he mean by that?
 
joy Carrie  03:28
Yeah, like are. We are humankind, but there are other kinds of species on the planet. And people think that viruses aren't necessarily alive, but they're just a type of intelligence that we don't classify as alive. So they're smart, they're gonna, they're gonna keep up to pace with antibiotics and all the pharmaceuticals that are synthetic,
 
Sean Morgan  03:58
right. So we're just waiting Making them smarter.
 
joy Carrie  04:01
Exactly. And okay, there I am. I did kind of like an intuitive reading around what this virus is actually about. And in my capacity it was saying that this virus is actually researching humankind to figure out what we're all about. And so now's the time that we can actually show up and say what we're about.
 
Sean Morgan  04:27
Yeah, there are so many different lenses to view with, you know, you can view it as the we're battling them and they're battling us or that they are they are a weapon, but that's an interesting way to perceive it. So you sent me an article from Steven Bruner and I'm not sure how to pronounce his name, but I'll put the link below so people can read it because it is one of the most lucid scientific and at the same time higher consciousness. Article I've read about Coronavirus, and I've been researching it quite a bit So this is an amazing resource. And you wrote an article is basically a more user friendly version of it that's shorter to the point. Can you tell me about that?
 
joy Carrie  05:09
Yeah, well, I have, like a network and I, when this first came into play, I saw, I saw what was happening with the media. It felt like they were just using subliminals to inject fear into anyone that was within range of their images. So I sent this out as kind of like, something to kind of lay some, some different framework that you to fear to kind of Yeah, or just like, so that fear can be like Teflon and just kind of like, go past people. And I call it prophylactic antivirals. And basically, I just summarize schooners. information like it wasn't medical advice. I just kind of put here's the simple dumbs and stages of how COVID-19 works. And the virus being called SARS Coby to how that impacts the body and how to keep it from moving into COVID-19, which is the really scary part where the healthcare and medicine actually needs to get involved.
 
Sean Morgan  06:22
Yeah, I thought I thought it was really well written, it was really to the point and you even talked about fear. So can you tell me how you actually sent me another article that you wrote, or some thoughts you had about the murder Hornets that had been making the headlines, and how the articles are not just like informative? They're not just like, oh, by the way, there are these Hornets and this is what's going on. It's like a very intentional and manufactured propaganda of fear. Can you tell me about how the fear mongering is happening and what you're doing about it?
 
joy Carrie  06:54
Yeah. So what I what I see happening is that you My lens of it, I see that there's this, there's this big screen that people get entrained by and information comes through. And our people in power use that to get to get people to a weaker place than where they usually are. And they do that through the medium of fear. So my kind of antidote or remedy or just sidestepping that dynamic is and make sure that I get really centered in my being and who I am and what I do and my purpose in life. And that's that's just a lot of personal work. And I keep it light. Keep it Yeah, yeah,
 
Sean Morgan  07:48
yeah, you know, even the words of murder Hornets are the ugliest, most scary words that I could imagine putting together and it's so over the top Then now every time I say murder horn horn, it's like I just laugh. Because it's their tactic is so obvious. It's like vampire bat murder Hornet. Okay, we get what you're trying to do. So, you mentioned meditation and you do bodywork. So what are some things that you do specifically with the fear?
 
joy Carrie  08:21
Mmm hmm. Well, the kind of structural integration I do is called Heller work. And there's this there's a component of that, that involves a somatic experience of felt sensations and emotions. And when you like, when your consciousness can, can focus on an emotion and your psyche can handle it, no matter how intense it is, just by your awareness going there it moves.
 
Sean Morgan  08:52
Yes. And maybe you could even say releases.
 
joy Carrie  08:55
Yeah, sometimes it's there's so many lost. Yeah. So it just It integrates and changes. And usually, that's what's so cool about fear because fear is the opposite side of the coin as love. So if you get down to where the fear is in your body and you can physically move it through, you can focus on it and it'll change where it resides or what the intensity of the sensation is. It always just turns into love.
 
Sean Morgan  09:29
So yeah, if if the emotion doesn't get processed, and it's in there somewhere physically in your body, then it's stagnant, then that can cause disease. Right? And then if if you put your consciousness on it, then something happens where something's processed and things start to move the stagnation is no longer stagnant and things are flowing and, and healing occurs. Is that what you're saying?
 
joy Carrie  09:57
Yeah, Healing in the sense that kind of acknowledging what reality is that's healing. I'm not saying healing in the sense of a cure.
 
Sean Morgan  10:13
So just if you focus on murder Hornets, you're not really focusing on reality because reality is not murder horn. It's everywhere. Yeah, yeah. So there's like a natural state state of wellness. Okay, so, so I'm glad that we covered this because I think a lot of people are feeling like they're stuck in victimhood, and then there's this kind of nebulous them, who is exerting authority over them saying you have to wear a mask, you have to stay in your house. You don't have any treatment options. You need to trust the doctors. You need to give your authority over to us and we will make the decisions for you about where you when you go to school, when you go to work, and all of that and And I think that for me personally, what's been really empowering is that as soon as this Coronavirus thing happened, I lost my job and completely switched to doing what I'm doing now. So I reached channeled my energy into like something empowering and where I was setting the steering my own life. And I can see other people who are just kind of like waiting around for their job to start back again that would feel disempowering. So, to focus on the medical side of this, why do you think it's important for people to do their own research on Coronavirus and figure out their own strategy?
 
joy Carrie  11:42
Is that why do I think it's important for people to take back their authority
 
Sean Morgan  11:49
medically and physically and yes.
 
joy Carrie  11:56
Hmm. That's a good question. So I see medical care as the safety net of what you do if you're about to die. Like, you know, you get hit by a car, we have these amazing doctors that know how to put bodies back together surgeries, people that know how to cure cancer. But when it comes to the average person, our standard of self care is so low that we are just almost needing to get medical attention if something goes wrong, but the capacity of the human body is so much greater than that, like the human body's a system that can distribute force and reorganize and hold our consciousness is this amazing thing. And for us to get sick means that 10,000 things have to go wrong. We actually need medical Care. Right? So for people to educate on their own self care, I think would be the best health care. Right.
 
Sean Morgan  13:11
Cool. Well, thank you joy. I really appreciate your insight and your thoughts and if people want to connect with you, do you want to put that out there? Yes. Or do you you're thinking hey, maybe I'll do that later.
 
joy Carrie  13:24
Um, I, I have a website. It's jQuery Comm. It's nothing special. But if people want to reach out I am doing calls like coaching calls via zoom are. I do astrology charts to that help people know how their system plugs into what's going on right now. That's the remote work I do.
 
Sean Morgan  13:49
Okay, great. Maybe we can discuss how that works. Because I don't think a lot of people immediately know what their system plugging into the other system means that Do you want to go over that real quick, just what you mean by their system and
 
joy Carrie  14:06
alter? Sure. So we have like our own personal history. And then we have like, the history of our maybe culture group. And then we have like humankind, and the collective transformation taking place, and astrology layers, all of those. So when you look at a natal chart, you can look at the personality of the person. And then you use the cultural infer inferences and how that personality may be expressed. And then that always has aspects to collective dynamics going on. And if you're aware of those, you can kind of know your stance. And it's a lot easier to see yourself
 
Sean Morgan  14:50
through time like this, when you can know yourself more clearly. And you know, your capacity and your tendencies and you know, What those are likely to be within the grand scheme of things or certain challenges and then you can make maybe wiser decisions.
 
joy Carrie  15:07
Exactly. Yeah.
 
Sean Morgan  15:09
Okay, great. Cool. If someone's interested in that they can reach out to you. I'll put a link below and thank you so much for your time joy.
 
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The KingPins and the Linchpins Of The Deep State

6/22/2020

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We are at a historic moment in time. The time when the USA will determine its fate.  Will it fall to leftists who want big pharma, big banking, post-birth abortions, and the like? 
Or....will the USA side with the values of faith, family, and freedom? Whichever America chooses, the rest of the world will follow. What are you willing to do to ensure that the republic will not be lost?
There are two sides. It hasn't always been left is bad and right is good. This is something new that has emerged as Trump and the military have attempted to clean the Republican party of deep state operatives. 
Now we have a Republican party full of "America First" candidates. And we have a Democratic party that has been forced to double down on the Green New Deal, violent rioting, and medical tyranny. 
The deep state has been doing everything it can to prevent a Trump re-election while attempting to move its agenda forward at the same time. The organized riots and divisive tactics of Black Lives Matters are not making a dent in Trump's approval rating. In fact, these aggressive and desperate moves may be helping him as the "law and order" candidate.
Trump and his advisors have a lot of dirt ready to fling for the election. A shortlist being Uranium One, Clinton Emails, Obamagate, Spygate, DECLASS, the Weiner Laptop, the Jussie Smollett hate hoax, Muellergate, etc. 
All of these scandals have Hilary and Obama at the top. These two are the kingpins that will do anything to distract the public from learning about their crimes.  They are also the linchpins that will trigger the deep state fall. 
But as long as Trump's approval rating holds up, there is no reason to release those weapons of information disclosure until the time that the Democrats pull an October Surprise like they did in 2016. 
The deep state and their Democratic lackeys will pull even more desperate moves before the election. What will they try? I think we can expect more international scuffles like false flag attacks of ships and airspace violations to try to sucker the USA into a war. But it won't work. The patriots won't fall for a head fake at the finish line. 
I predict a landslide election, the likes of which we have never seen. But don't just sit at home and wait for it. Will you wear the mask of the democrats? Will you bend a knee to them? Or, will you stand tall and breathe freely for our country? Will you demand fraud-free elections at the voting booth? Will you proudly go there to perform your duty? If you do, do so with the knowledge that you are casting a vote against tyranny and for a brighter future for our children. Trump and the patriots are not just fighting for a four year election. They are fighting for humanity for a generation to come. 

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Sean Morgan Interviews Paul Furber On The End Times

6/22/2020

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Sean Morgan Interviews Paul Furber On The End Times
Mon, 5/25 12:58PM • 43:46
SUMMARY KEYWORDS
people, revelation, corona, judgment, china, elites, ad, book, jesus, temple, pandemic, heaven, soap, called, prophecy, god, theory, culture, daniel, wrote
SPEAKERS
Sean Morgan, Paul Ferber
 
Sean Morgan  00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus. Get the free ebook at Q anon faq.com. I'm here with my friend Paul Ferber. And, Paul, I noticed on Twitter, you, you, you post about different things you post about South Africa, the politics there, the culture there, the racism there. You post about Coronavirus about anonymous sources of information. You know, you really do pay attention to what's going on the United States. You're very well versed in what's going on in the US. And you also actually talk about the Bible and about prophecy and people kind of go back and forth with you on this on Twitter. It's fun to watch. So I was talking to you last time, Paul about the kind of way a lot of people read Revelation is that, really it's not a very pretty ending for humanity on Earth. I mean, yes, in the end, God wins. There's a new earth and all that. But if the elect could be be deceived, they would have been because it's such a sophisticated deception that occurs. There are plagues there are wars. I mean, people are just like, Whoa to anyone who has a child at that time, right. So and So I talked to you about the book, Revelation, and you said that you have a different view on it. And right now, in this whole information war that we're going through, it seems like the good guys, the white hats are actually winning, and we have this real chance for a Renaissance. So what's your perspective on all of this?
 
Paul Ferber  01:48
Yeah, sure. So my view is called preterist. Well, it's partial preterist. The the full preacher Asara weird times, they say that All biblical prophecy has already been fulfilled which I think is obviously nonsense. Since we don't have a new heaven and new earth yet we haven't had judgment you know, we haven't had judgment but parts of partial preachers and says that revelation is what kicks off with seven letters to seven real churches By the way, you can go and visit them in Turkey right now but not right now because there's no flights there but you used to be able to go and visit the seven churches in in Turkey. I've only been to Istanbul Antalya, which Paul mentions in the book of Acts as being a city on the sea and it's still there and still called Antalya Talia, which is quite fun. But yeah, so first seven first at first there's a there's the seven leftist or seven churches. And then then there's a version john sees something, john c something which is extraordinary, you know, he and you can tell from the language you know, he when he first sees the vision of Christ the guy is holding, the guy is holding seven bowls or seven lamp stands in his right hand and then he puts his right hand on John's shoulder. So what did he do? Did he like juggle juggle the lamp stands and the balls, it's very much an it's a style of literature called apocalyptic where the visions and the sensations are server whelming, that the language often doesn't make sense. However, there are still lots of symbols and coded symbols that would have been perfectly familiar to John's listeners in Revelation. And I believe that for a start, it's cyclical, but the seven seals merely just tell the same story, that God's people will be persecuted, and that they will come up find in the end. And what preachers have or certainly partial preachers says is that the majority of biblical prophecy was fulfilled by 70 ad. So this goes back to Daniel's prophecy. If you want to understand revelation, you should really Immerse yourself in the book of Daniel. Daniel talks about a both a period of 17 weeks, which was meant to be a unified whole of Israel receiving some kind of Revelation and rejecting it. And he also talks about an individual period of three and a half years, where First there's going to be some sort of abomination and the temple some sort of combination of cause desolation. It's going to be a three and a half year period. And then, and then the temples can be destroyed. Now that fits very nicely in that fits very nicely in with what actually happened in 70. AD, is what first you had like halfway through 66 ad there was a mock sacrifice in the temple with zealots. I think they killed a priest or two and they set up a fake blood sacrifice in the temple. Matthew won't qualify as
 
Sean Morgan  04:57
an abomination.
 
Paul Ferber  04:58
Well, yeah, exactly. I'm Matthew Matthew writing to his Jewish readers, when he tells the story of when Jesus is warning about the elevate discourse with Jesus warns about all this. He says, When you see the abomination that causes desolation, let the reader understand. In other words, my Jewish readers will know what this means. This is bad news. It means the three and a half years of Tribulation is starting right now. Get out of time to get out of Dodge, Luke, right into his Gentile writers. interpolated he says when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, so because obviously you know an abomination, of course, desolation would have meant a lot to his Gentile readers and didn't well particularly not the office who he wrote to was obviously some kind of Gentile Roman, who was a recipient of both Luke and Acts. So there's this event in the mid 60s warning trouble is coming and as predicted by Daniel and Revelation is Just continues the apocalyptic tradition of coded language. You know, symbols, signs, incredibly, you know, incredibly spectacular things happening in the sky and on the land, whatever. But this is all par for the course. This is all part of the course when it comes to when it comes to literature about judgment. I just want to I'm an idiot and I haven't popped it up yet. I just want to pull up the Bible gateway.
 
Sean Morgan  06:32
Sure while you do that, yeah.
 
Paul Ferber  06:36
Yeah.
 
Sean Morgan  06:37
Jesus was asked about this in the Bible, and he said, This generation will not pass until these things are fulfilled. So right, that makes me think, okay, 70 ad. That's actually about perfect to be one generation.
 
Paul Ferber  06:57
Yeah. That's right. So So,
 
Sean Morgan  07:06
but obviously I didn't return in one generation. So that's the part that always confused me.
 
Paul Ferber  07:11
Well, well, okay, so now the key point to that is the word peruse, yeah. And it actually means arrival or coming. Okay. Pre tourists say that Christ's arrival was actually an ongoing process between the time of his resurrection and the time of 70 ad. So, when again, harking back to Daniel, Jesus explicitly appropriates that little passage about the Son of Man to himself, the high priest asked him, Are you the Son of God? And he says, I am and you will see the Son of Man coming on the clouds of head, the Son of Man, cottony What does it say exactly. It's mark is sin mark. You will see the Son of men coming seated at the right hand of the Almighty and coming with the clouds of heaven. So there's like four different claims to definity divinity, in that little phrase. And what Jesus is actually saying, according to the preachers worldview, which I raised is that is going to be a generational period where the Son of Man will be presented to the Ancient of Days. And at the end of it, he will sit down at the right hand of God, and all his prophecies will be vindicated. Now, I find it interesting that when Steven sees a vision of the ribbon, Risen Christ, just before his death, Jesus is standing at the right hand of God. He has not he has not yet sat down. My friend of God. There is a very Jewish and very messianic feeling about all about that the whole thing of the Son of Man whereby the is going to be a generational period where Jesus is going to kind of proceed towards the throne. Right. And, for instance, a poll uses the word Rouzier in a similar way, and you could check you can check it out in you know, you can check it out in the original Greek where it's it can both mean arrival and presence. I mean, you know when he complains to it to the Corinthians and a second later you know that the super apostles always complain that I'm strong while I'm away. But when I am Perugia when I'm with you, I'm weak. So that there's that this feeling of coming into this feeling of coming should should be understood in the elevate discourse as a movement towards the throat. There is an awful lot of detail and in that explanation, which I won't get into, but I tell you what, I'll send you a reference to it because I find it very convincing. What it means yet what it means then is, as you say, all of it discourse is that Jesus is very clear with the language, he says There are people standing here who will still be alive will not taste death, when all these things have taken place, that generational rejection of the Messiah, not not total rejection, because obviously an awful lot of Jews did believe in Jesus. But that that kind of programmatic 30 to 40 years in the wilderness, you know, as predicted by Daniel and then ending with ending with what, for instance, the 10 kings of the Rome that would ultimately destroy and destroy Israel, which they did. I mean, they set Jerusalem and they destroyed the temple. That was God's final judgment on Israel for rejecting the Messiah. And sorry, I've lost my train of thought, saying,
 
Sean Morgan  10:49
Yeah, well, you were talking about the Olivet Discourse and how all this is talking to the people present they you you will not taste death.
 
Paul Ferber  10:57
Yeah, right. Sorry. That's sorry. That is right. Yes, they all have a discourse. So you will not taste death before these things take place. Revelation, I believe is a view of those tumultuous times between Jesus's resurrection and the judgment on Israel, future judgment of heaven on earth and everyone is still to come. That John's original readers when john wrote this in it can be dated to the early 60s. I think that's about right. I don't think the the judgment about you know, the dating of revelation from 90 ad is right, that just that means john was john was like riding around on horseback when he was in his 80s. Literally, you know, because he was exiled to pass. I think he wrote it in Patmos, as he says in the text. In Bible he was exiled by Nero to Patmos and he wrote a kind of mid early to mid 60s ad. And it's an encouragement in code to believe As of the time, it just doesn't make any sense to me that like, you know, people reading revelation and also pull right into the Thessalonians talking about a man of lawlessness, then they read this, they feel encouraged. And then suddenly, there's an abomination. They hear about the desecration of the temple in Jerusalem. And then they hear about Jerusalem being surrounded by armies. Then they hear about the Romans strangely not attacking for a couple of months, allowing a whole lot of people to leave. Then they hear about the fall of Jerusalem and the temple was thrown down. They would have looked back at Revelation and said, aha, this is what it's all about. You know, the dragon is Satan. The woman is possibly the, you know, the woman who rides a dragon is possibly the, you know, the Jewish church who's riding on, you know, the backside of the Roman Empire. The Beast they know is Nero because 666 adds up to Nero Caesar, or 616. So manuscripts habit that adds up to Nero Caesar in letter So depending on whether you read Greek or Latin, you get six months six or 666, which is quite a nice bit of corroboration that the original beast was nearer. However, I'm not dogmatic when it comes to creatures. When I look around the world today, and I see play, pestilence, rumors of war, rivers, turning grid, you know, judgment, locusts. I've looked at the language of Revelation, I think. Yeah, I think there's a bit of a reminder here that maybe we should be paying attention to the world around us. So no, I'm not entirely dogmatic that all of revelation was fulfilled by 70. Ad. I think that I think we are meant to the original readers would have understood it to be so but I don't I think we can look at that text and say, yeah, these are sites or patterns that Godwin's and there are definite archetypes in the false state the false prophets. The various judgments like famine, war locusts pestilence, that God is going to unleash. But there's a strong there's a strong sense of exaggeration, to all of judgment is always exaggerated for effect in the Bible by God. I've got a lovely example here in the CTL zekiel chapter 20. reading from verse 45, the word of the Lord came to be Son of Man, set your face towards the south preach against the south and prophesied against the forest land in the nugget, say to the forest to the naked, hear the word of the Lord that says the Lord God Behold, I will Kindle a fire in you and it will devour every green tree in you and every dry tree. The blazing flame will not be quenched and all phases from south to north shall be scorched by it. All flesh you'll see that I the Lord have Kindler It shall not be quenched now. Now that obviously sounds pretty bad, you know, there's a fire is going to like the whole first of the negative from South north. And in fact, this is what happened figure t figure to deed The land was carried off into exile by the Babylonians. So is he killed? tells this parable and you don't do people say to him? He says, Yeah, he complains back to God, he says, Our Lord God, they're just telling me that I'm making parables again. So the people understood that this fire light in the forest from south to north or negative was just a metaphor for coming judgment, not that it was meant to be understood literally. But you can go through the whole of Scripture and find out the judgment is always exaggerated in terms of its presentation, you know, how it is right? That actually it is that you know, real judgments, except in most serious of cases tends to be very turn down. Yeah, because God is merciful right? If you if you read judgment texts with an open mind, you can see that. Yeah, judgment is judgment is always tempered with mercy. Always. Yes,
 
Sean Morgan  16:12
yes, Sodom and Gomorrah is kind of an example of, you know, that mixture between judgment and mercy. But but that's, that's an example where two cities were utterly destroyed. So God can do that again whenever he wants. Yeah, yeah. So one of the interesting things that you talked about is this idea of actions taking place in the kingdom of heaven, such as standing at the right hand and then sitting at the right hand. And I've been exposed to the prophecy views of the Adventist Church where they talk about how they initially thought in the 1800s, that Christ was, had an imminent return, and they were all wrong and they were like, they tried to figure that out. They just didn't understand because their math was like adding up from the book of Daniel. And they said, Okay, well, since Christ didn't return at the exact date that we thought, well, then maybe there's something going on in the kingdom of heaven. And that was actually the beginning of cleaning of the temple, the heavenly temple, and that there's some kind of ritual going on in the kingdom of heaven that can take hundreds of years, you know, as the high priests Christ in heaven is going through this ritual, and the the all of this actually corresponds to prophesy. Do you have Have you been exposed to this idea?
 
Paul Ferber  17:40
All right, that is, I must say that's the first I've heard of it. But that's, that's a very interesting view. And that actually makes a lot of sense. I, I would have to look at that and research it properly. I mean, I instantly have some objections to it, but it's not Firstly, different from my view where Jesus is is coming you No, it was in a process of moving somewhere in the kingdom of heaven for that 30 to 40 years between 30 ad and 70 ad. I think it's quite I think it's quite a similar concept, where there's a process happening in heaven and the Adventist uses, there's a process happening in heaven. I think a major differences I believe that it ended in 70 ad. It was a fulfillment of the prophecy of the destruction of Jerusalem, whereas the adventures view seems to be no, it's still going on now. So yeah, yeah, that's pretty cool. Actually, I must check that out. I didn't know sorry. Yes,
 
Sean Morgan  18:34
I think I think another part of that narrative is that Christ is going through through the books, you know, right. You know, of the, some people will call it the Akashic records or something like that, where it's like the history of all all beings actions and and, you know, determining the fate of that soul So, Yeah, that's very interesting to me. I one of the problems with with these things that have to do with the kingdom of heaven is that we can't observe it and research it, we can only just make these conjectures. And then we can pray about it we can hope for for some, some guidance. But I always kind of come back to the basics, which is, you know, repent. Yeah, you know, just get right with God.
 
Paul Ferber  19:29
Because the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Yeah, right. I mean, yeah.
 
Sean Morgan  19:32
Yeah. The kingdom of heaven is a hand that was kind of the from the very beginning from the time that john the baptist, it was saying, hey, you might as well just imagine judgments coming today because that's how urgent this this issue is. Right?
 
Paul Ferber  19:47
Yeah. You mentioned the word soon, as believed in by the by the Adventist soon in the new title, that Greek word soon carries with it. A meaning of Not not time as in we think, you know, tomorrow or we're now it's time, but a meeting of with absolute certainty. So,
 
Sean Morgan  20:09
yeah, wait, it's inevitable. It's
 
Paul Ferber  20:11
Yeah, that's right. It's just like the sun is gonna come up tomorrow. But it's kind of a, it's cut. There's this feeling that Jesus is coming soon, yes, you can be sure that he is coming. Not that he's coming soon as he's going to be here next week or within our lifetimes. So there's that element. The other thing is that the New Testament is written to people who are very present oriented in their culture. We as white Westerners are future oriented. So we save for the future, we plan for the future, we make future plans. The audience of the New Testament so you know, the original hearers of the Gospels and then the peoples around the mid to would have received the first latest. We're very present oriented and very group oriented. So their identity was found in a group. They were part of group culture. And they were part of a culture where you mind that your business on the thing you were doing then you had your traditions. And that this is why again, you read all of it. This course Jesus makes it very clear that this, some people are still going to be alive. The key is in the future. When this all happens. That's a very unusual thing to say, to a president oriented culture person where it's there now, the past and some time in the future is God's judgment. So his prophecy is very quite unusual. And I that's another reason this is another reason why I believe that revelation for instance, written to encourage believers, then and there would have been for their immediate circumstances and possibly the next few years, certainly up until the destruction of the temple, it would be inconceivable that they would have been encouraged by some text which is prophesied 2000 years into the future. about some of that maybe even heard about on the on the on the contrary contrary to that, of course, is that Daniel did exactly that. Daniels Yes, Daniels Daniels prescription Daniels predictions in you know 500 BC, talking about the four kingdoms you know the Medes, the Persians, the Greeks and Rome sorry Babylonians means Persians, Greeks and Rome was 600 years before its time and predicted on the nail, including Alexander the Great Antioch 70s. Rome rising, the not the, the the Anointed One being cut off during the time of Rome, the teen kings I mean, it's all it's so accurate and so specific that liberal scholars tend to try and date Daniel much later because they have this disbelief that full prophecy can't happen, which is their, you know, their bias that they bring to the text instead of letting the text speak for itself.
 
Sean Morgan  22:54
But there's so many different layers of meaning and interpretation in the Bible. And in the book of Revelation,
 
Paul Ferber  23:02
already I've a cat who wants to get out of office just excuse me a second. No problem. I'm listening.
 
Sean Morgan  23:09
Yeah. So so for example, one one layer or level of interpretation doesn't discount all the other layers, for example, you could look at the book of Revelation being about the process of death for an individual and they, they're going to die and they're going to be judged. And, you know, in that moment of death, or in that process of death, they're going to have knowledge and go through a process of the afterlife and resurrection and, and a new, a new heaven and a new earth and right. So you know, that, to me, that's much more urgent than being concerned about whether this generation or the next generation is actually going to have the final battle between good and evil. Like we're all going to die and we're all gonna die. No be judged. So
 
Paul Ferber  24:03
yes, I concentrate on the now exactly as you said. Right.
 
Sean Morgan  24:09
Well, thank you, Paul, is it's interesting to discuss this with you because it's it's not an easy book to no one will no one will say yeah, the Book of Revelations straightforward easy books.
 
Paul Ferber  24:23
Yeah, no, it's not. Yeah.
 
Sean Morgan  24:25
So it's helpful to discuss it and kind of tease out all of these different layers of meaning. So and the fact that you You seem like a sincere person who's on a spiritual, it's not just a political journey of truth you're on, you're still trying to figure out the spiritual level of all this, right?
 
Paul Ferber  24:46
Yeah, of course. We all I mean, you know, if you, if you if you want to, if you're a person who wants to who's genuinely interested in the truth, then you're going to look at all aspects of it, I think, I think yeah, I think I'm pretty normal. When it comes to that I find and I find that very strongly in the truth seeker community is that people, whatever their views are generally, you know, if you show them information, they'll change their minds. Right? You know, they don't have, they don't have worldviews that are a house of cards, they'll they'll genuinely search for the truth. And they'll look for information. And it doesn't matter where it comes from. But, I mean, I follow an enormous number of people I disagree with, because what they're saying is challenging me all the time. Am I thinking correctly about this? You know, have I got a prejudice here that I don't know about? That putting the blinders on? So I think we all do that to some extent. And you meet all the people you interview in your channel, or very similar people, but we all have our baggage and our backgrounds and our different experiences, but we're all helping each other. Just move that little bit further forward and finding out how the world really works. I think Would you if that's what joins us all in common? I think that would be it right there.
 
Sean Morgan  26:07
Yes, it's a combination of standing up for something that you, you really do determined to be worthy of attention. And even if it's not something that you wouldn't change your mind on, if given new new information, so there's a level of humility that's required. But at the same time, you can't just stay in positivity and just say, well, this might be true. That might be true. It's up to it could be anyone's guess. And then you're giving a lot of power to the people who are controlling the information narrative.
 
Paul Ferber  26:38
Yeah, it is. Yeah. You just you've got to be active about it. I mean, it's it is a perfectly normal reaction to say, right, okay. Can I think of the, you know, one of my favorite books on journalism, and I've been a study of being a historian but not historian but it's certainly a study of good journalism from Many, many years is a book written in 2011 called hacker tech how the inside story of phone hacking caught up with rupert murdoch, written by a British journalist Nick Davies working for The Guardian, funnily enough, which is I find lifti, bollocks and hardly ever go there. But the Guardian used to employ real journals and Nick Daly is one of them. And in his book, he headlined one of his chapters, something like, you know, you develop a highly developed imagination, you take your imagination, and you pointed at your problem. How does this piece of evidence fit in? How it does work? What who would talk who would talk to me? How can I put the next piece of the jigsaw puzzle in the doc, how can I and I thought I read this and I thought, that's what I do. That's Yeah, this is what No, this is what any truth seeker does. You say there's
 
Sean Morgan  27:56
not too much difference between an investigator and a A thriller writer,
 
Paul Ferber  28:02
we are investigators. So we're using standard. I mean, I use the standard sort of the historical method of interpreting evidence all the time. Like, if, if a theory. I mean, one of the basic tenets of historic method is if a theory explains a wide variety of different facts all at once, then it's quite likely to be true. That's not necessarily true. But if you if you have a theory that I mean let's take for an example something horrendous, like yeah, the elite sacrificing kids to mow lock and traffic that and always have that there's a theory does every single piece of evidence that came out about pizza gate Elsa gate trafficking, Epstein, does it fit into this theory? Is it explained by the theory? Hell yes. You know, you can you can nitpick every single Individual essay, you know, piece of evidence in a theory that and come up with a correct answer. However, if one theory like kind of cuts across the whole, the whole gamut, you know, I'm looking for the right word here the whole sort of corpus of evidence that we have, and says, Yeah, this explains that, that that that then that then it's probably likely to be true. So,
 
Sean Morgan  29:27
yeah, there's kind of a natural conflict between confirmation bias where you get this idea in your head and you're just looking for evidence that it's true. And then you can always find that because we have this mountain of information that we can pick and choose from. So you should always go through the process of trying to find the opposite of what you believe to be true and see if you can find more or less your evidence. Yes, sure.
 
Paul Ferber  29:51
If you catch yourself with a piece of evidence comes up that contradicts your theory. Just make sure that you don't just check it out. Right goes yeah that because because no that doesn't really fit for the if it is effect, then you you cannot check it out.
 
Sean Morgan  30:08
Something he talks about. Yeah, it's kind of related to this when the art comes razor concepts and outcomes razor I guess to simplify would be that the simplest x given like a different different options and explanations of something the simplest kind of most elegant explanation for it is usually the most correct one run. So q point like talked about this in the case of the corona virus being somehow planned to disrupt the Trump election and he talked about, you know, the fact that the timing of it was perfect that the fact that the Articles of Impeachment were held the fact that that's, you know, it actually helps Joe Biden and shelters Joe Biden and whatever weird dementia thing he's going through You know, though all of these and cue mentioned maybe a dozen things and all you just add them all up and they all explain Oh, this is a plan demick and this is meant to prevent, you know, Trump from from winning the election mail in voting and all of this stuff. Yeah. So another another easy way. The truth is used to determine the truth is to follow the money.
 
Paul Ferber  31:27
That's a very good example. You know, all those facts about Corona check. I have a slightly different conclusion, although it is very similar. Is that yes, the elites were going to plan an epidemic this year based on Corona you can find a rap songs from 2003 Tony Robbins
 
31:48
saying
 
Paul Ferber  31:49
yeah 20 2020 Coronavirus and the body stacking the fact that Bill Gates you know event to a one was a Coronavirus pay endemics simulation run in October last year Hello. You know, the the Murray ads of elite foreshadowing in popular media and entertainment about how a pandemic is coming. Don't buy the usual suspects. So Fauci is the gates is there, Hollywood is there. So I absolutely agree that the cult we're going to plan a Corona based pandemic this year and they props George Soros is probably the guy who funded it because he gave money last year we had, however, this one caught them by surprise because it got out by accident. unknown to them. China had been building its own by a weapon for decades, because they were tired of you know that the only way they can fight against us hegemony is military hegemony is by biological means. So they, through Torah, all the treaties, they signed on bio weapons, and they've been developing in this since the SARS days in fact SARS is also bioweapons just wasn't a very good one. Wasn't that infectious, but they've refined and added this the Chinese refined this and edited to sauce and then cup of old cups it got out in the truck accident October last year. Guess what the elites are ready for a pandemic
 
Sean Morgan  33:16
saw and they got their whole narrative. They do all their Bateman.
 
Paul Ferber  33:21
Yeah, totally. Their narrative is there except books quite a few of them have actually caught it sad, I believe actually believe that a quite a few of them have caught it. So Doris, I think we spoke about this for Boris, Justin Trudeau, his wife, as the Prime Minister of Spain and his wife, the Pope, and heard much from the Pipers and MC Maven public. I think you've seen that video where he disappears into thin air after giving a blessing on his balcony. Yeah, that's obviously a screen and it obviously cuts off just a bit early before he can go. You know, the video they took is you know, they haven't faded them through the curtain property. I thought that was quite funny. So I suspect the pope is dead and he died from Corona. Iran. Iran is a deep ship because of Corona. Really, it's, it's about to collapse entirely as a society. So, yes, yes, the elites actually had Corona planned. And I mean, there's that video I linked on Twitter of a guy who was mistakenly invited to a meeting of senior senior masons in London where they were talking about China catching a cold. And then after that, the, you know, the crackdown in the West because of the pandemic and then the full blown nuclear war and blah, blah. So, yeah, they were planning a pandemic, this is all part of it. But yes, one reality is one. Yeah, this one you know, they're they're not surprised.
 
Sean Morgan  34:43
That's why, you know, when you talk about geopolitics, people use the term five D chess with strategy because it's not checkers. This is not just China makes a move here and deep stakes are here. You've got white hats and black hats in every single state. So you have people working against each other. have double agents and triple agents. Yeah, you know, you've got pawns and people, you know, faking to be one thing and they're actually another. And so it can get very complicated to try to figure out the truth. But But Q, Q has been this place where I look besides on Twitter, people like you, I'll go to the queue drops. And I'll see what are what are some specific sources of information. And so he talks about the Harvard professor who was arrested and receiving millions of dollars, man, that is shady.
 
35:37
Yeah, there were
 
Sean Morgan  35:38
there were two people associated with him who were trying to sneak a vials out of the Logan Airport in Boston. And q actually talked about Corona one, Corona two Corona three offline. We thought they were he was talking about satellites. So, I mean, is it really a coincidence that the word Corona was in the queue drops?
 
Paul Ferber  36:00
No. So,
 
Sean Morgan  36:02
so yeah, I mean, the propaganda campaign of China, what they did with all these videos that were released, whether they were purposeful or on purposeful, I don't know, but that's an interesting thing to analyze as well, how China has managed this propaganda campaign. Yeah, try to see what were their intentions. were they trying to make people more scared? Were they trying to make people more calm? Were they trying to cover up things? Were they trying to increase the hysteria?
 
Paul Ferber  36:36
So So this guy I follow on YouTube is called serpent zayday. On YouTube, surf and ca you would you would say in over your neck of the woods is E Rp. And Tz a siphon guy who lived in China for many years. In fact, I think his wife is Chinese and he speaks Mandarin and has worked a lot funnily enough with the middle Koch community in China with doctors and nurses doing training now lives in London. And he puts out regular videos on how the CCP actually works. And the country as a whole culturally, he entire premise of the Chinese reaction is to not lose face. It is simple as that. They cannot admit that it was a biotech because that would they would lose face for breaking the treaty, they cannot admit that it got out by accident, because that would lose face in terms of their competence. They cannot admit that they were being held by the Russians who provided a lot of the funding and logistics for the spiderweb because they would lose face. They cannot admit that it was an accident and they try to cover it up for four days from October the fourth to the seventh. And then they realized they couldn't and so they immediately shut down the lab from the seventh to the 24th. They cannot admit that because they would lose face. They can don't admit in public that Wu Han was fine until mid January, and then suddenly it fell apart in 10 days, because that's our exponential growth, where some honesty bites you. It's very simplistic like
 
Sean Morgan  38:14
me does perfectly. My next guest is coming in a moment, but I'll just say that it does explain everything pretty well. And I've, I've lived in China briefly, and that does, does explain their culture perfectly. Another thing that most people don't realize, unless they're on the ground there is that it's not actually a very sophisticated culture, that it's hard for them to coordinate and actually get anything done at all. It is actually just this 1% of elites who are like, top down controlling everything. So this whole idea of saving face, it's actually a big advantage to whoever's working against China in the playbook because All you have to do is give them a deal and say, Okay, well you give us this and we'll let you say face and then they'll take the deal.
 
Paul Ferber  39:08
Exactly. And also, when you say the controller from the top down, that goes right down to like the municipal level, where your local CCP guy who is in charge off this block of flats, all right, he can see that everyone's die. But he doesn't even get in trouble and lose face. So he doesn't report it to his hierarchy. And that guy also doesn't want to get in trouble that his region is now dying. In other words, there's hundreds of thousands of data in it. So he doesn't report it. This kind of what I'm getting at
 
Sean Morgan  39:39
is the level. Yeah, in the Western culture, you would just call that incompetence, like the inability to coordinate and get anything done at all. And so what I've what I've tried to explain to people after I've been on the ground there is that China is not a real threat that yes, they have lots of people They have lots of money. They have lots of technology. They have lots of military and lots of soldiers. They have some pretty evil plans. But if they can't get simple things done, then they can't compete in this type of war against the West. So that's what my perspective is right now is that basically the West, the good guys, the white hats, have them by the balls, because they're just trying to save face, you know, and their entire economy is based on subservience to our economy. So I have not developed true independence they have not developed, you know, any of these things that that are required to actually compete. So we can rest easy that's how I'm I'm thinking.
 
Paul Ferber  40:50
I think I think next time you and I should talk about group culture versus individual culture, and present culture versus future culture and Honor, honor and shame versus guilt. Because I think those are huge invisible divisions in cultures around the world that we don't even realize are there. But they are they I mean, I live in Africa. So I know very well, our group culture has basically scuppered this entire country basically. So, yeah, we should we should chat about cultural differences next time because it does have strong applicability to Corona, the Bible. Yes, it actually we talked about we kind of miss Yeah,
 
Sean Morgan  41:29
we talked about the complexity. But then actually, when you go down to more of the universals and the principles, it actually helps explain things on a macro level better. You.
 
Paul Ferber  41:39
You think, Oh, I see it now. Yeah, really? Right. Especially. Yeah. And I can give you some real life examples that you'll say, Oh, I see. Okay. Anyway, I think we're let's agree,
 
Sean Morgan  41:50
as we are Paul is great. We'll talk about that next time. Thank you, Paul. Have a good one. Awesome.
 
Paul Ferber  41:57
Look forward to it. Cheers. Cheers.
 
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