Being A Bridge_ An Awakening Interview with Sara Yamtich

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Sean Morgan  00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus. Get the free ebook at Q anon FAQ calm Hello, Sara, welcome to the show. Can you tell us a little bit about who you are what you do?
 
Sara Yamtich  00:18
Yes, thank you for having me, Sean. It's it's a delight to be here. So I'm Sarah Vantage, and I have a digital marketing agency for spiritual and soulful thought leaders. So my mission in the world, one of my missions in the world, is to sort of raise the impact in the consciousness of the planet of these people on the planet. There's about 7.8 billion people on the planet right now, I think something like that, and over 2 billion of them are on social media. And whatever we want to say about social media and and Those that that sort of owns the Facebook and Instagram, whatever we want to say about that. There's a huge, there's well over a critical mass or a tipping point of people on those channels. And we have an opportunity to reach them with really consciousness raising evolution oriented messaging.
 
Sean Morgan  01:22
So that's so cool. It's so cool because a lot of us feel like we have to work for the man to make money. And we have to compromise our ethics. And it's not a comfortable thing. And especially as you start to become more passionate about your own mission and doing what's right then then sometimes you get to the point where you feel like you have to leave your job and do something else. And so you're able to do what you love and help other people do what they love. So you must have really cool clients
 
Sara Yamtich  02:01
I do I have amazing clients. I love them and I love being able to help get their mission in the world and, and honestly, the sort of the caliber and the messaging of the clients that I have seems to be sort of evolving as well. And so that's really exciting to see what's what's coming.
 
Sean Morgan  02:20
Yeah, before we clicked record, we were talking about canceled culture and the idea that if someone says the wrong thing, or does the wrong thing, or if they like someone on social media that's not socially condoned. Then their entire livelihood, their entire reputation is canceled all in one moment. And it does make me wonder if these types of attacks on people are actually coordinated and not not organically canceling people. You mentioned Ani difranco When did you start noticing this type of canceled culture?
 
Sara Yamtich  02:58
Um, I don't think Can't tell you exactly when I noticed it. But I know that when in my heart I said, I'm not going to be a part of this. Because kancil culture, what's the vibration of kancil culture? It's shame. Yes, shaming, it's public shaming, that's the lowest vibration emotion that you can have on this planet is a shame and guilt. And, and whether it is coordinated by some sort of like dark forces on the planet, or whether it's organic, it probably could be both them is case by case but either way it is. It is a result of whatever, I think some sort of maneuvering is happening, even if it's not necessarily directly,
 
Sean Morgan  03:43
right. Yeah, I'm really glad you mentioned shame as being the root of that and the core of that and that, hey, if you can call that out when it when it rears its head, it might be an opportunity for growth and there are so many different boxes. We can put In the New Age box or in the liberal box or, or conservative or whatever. But there is this thing that's going on in our culture, where people who used to identify with being tolerance of people have different religions and people of different walks of life. And people have different ideas and they were able to hold a space and to do deep listening and all this stuff are now the people who are refusing to engage in the conversation. They're refusing to listen, they're refusing to look at different perspectives. They Close, close off the conversation, and they close off the relationship. So now we're getting these different silos, instead of a culture that's communicating and growing together. Have you noticed that trend?
 
Sara Yamtich  04:52
Oh, absolutely. I mean, I like I said, I started I really noticed it in a very explicit way back in like 2013 because I was A big honor to Franco fan in high school and college and she was organizing a songwriters retreat. And for those of you that don't know who she is, she's a singer songwriter, popular and kind of in a cult following sort of way. She has her own record label, starting in the night, early 90s. And I'm an IT girl. So I was I was here for all of that. And she very much saying on behalf of the oppressed, and was sort of, you know, very left left wing and her orientation. And in 2013 ish, she organized a songwriters retreat in outside of New Orleans where she lives at a plantation site. And she got she got shamed publicly hardcore.
 
Sean Morgan  05:52
And so first people might not even understand why why would she be shamed? Can you explain it
 
Sara Yamtich  05:57
because by having A songwriters retreat on a former plantation she has somehow supporting slavery or something like this. So, so she said, you know, wow, there's really nowhere on this entire in this entire country, especially the south where you could hold any kind of event and have it not be on on the burial grounds of the indigenous or on a plantation tight like this is this is a character in our songs. Let's talk about it. And that should roll over
 
Sean Morgan  06:34
to bended knee. She did.
 
Sara Yamtich  06:36
And she did apologize because then they then they came after again. She was like, fine, it's canceled, sorry. And then she was quiet after that for a while. Right. Um,
 
Sean Morgan  06:48
so that her PR person told her, just give her
 
Sara Yamtich  06:52
Yeah, I mean, there's so this this and it's happened to me on a much smaller scale last year over Christmas on Christmas Day. Actually. I have something on my website. called marketing Mandela's and it's sort of like how to get yourself ready for Facebook ads and that's there's the practical angle and a spiritual angle. And somebody called me out for for cultural appropriation and I was not I did not handle it well I put like a laugh emoji a laugh cry emoji or something like that when they did this. So they took that screenshot and posted it on their public page and said that I was a racist and not not to work with me because I'm a racist, culturally appropriating it grow. But
 
Sean Morgan  07:30
actually, let's just pause right there. Because being called a racist is so hurtful. Like, just when I hear that story, I just want to cry. Because, and this is what's being thrown around. Like it's nothing to say that hey, you are the kind of person who wouldn't acknowledge someone's character you you all you care about is what's on the surface. That's what kind of person you are like that is just low. It's a low blow. And, and that's what's being thrown around in our culture. Like it's nothing just accusing people of being racist. So, I mean, I hear you 100% I mean, I feel the same way and but I also I think I have this ability to like, empathize because what what somebody, like a dear friend of mine in the states Who, who,
 
Sara Yamtich  08:22
who I love dearly would say is that if we lived in pre World War Two Nazi Germany, would we would we want to tolerate any any, you know, sort of behavior that we perceive to be allowing for this, this evil unfolding? Right? And of course not, we wouldn't want to be tolerant to that, of course, we'd want to stand up against it, of course, you know, like, we would want to believe that we would do something to counteract that. So that's the place where many of them not all of them are coming from
 
Sean Morgan  08:52
Yeah, there are some good intentions in there. Yeah, but, but like we talked about before, there's a lack of any engagement, a lack of listening, a lack of connecting and understanding each other. And so when you refuse to listen to another person's perspective and really know where they're coming from, and then you just label them something, it really prevents growth that prevents relationship it prevents all that.
 
Sara Yamtich  09:18
I 100% agree. I mean, the whole concept of privilege, which, that's a whole can of worms to get into and I, I mean, I, I will acknowledge whenever I'm saying something, I'll be like, well, in my privileged position here in Costa Rica with the you know, I'm not like in the things going on in the States right now. I understand privilege, it means it means I can't necessarily understand what somebody else is going through. And so I'm open to being schooled a little bit on what that may be. The problem with it, though, is when you get shamed for, for not acknowledging your own privilege, or you get shamed for being praised for being and being privilege, is that the subconscious or unconscious results That is that I'm going to hold myself back. I'm going to temper myself. I'm going to like, close in on myself and not shine too brightly because I don't want to exhibit too much privilege or step on anyone else's toes or take away anything from someone else. And that's not going to serve anyone.
 
Sean Morgan  10:18
Yeah, there's a there's like a meme or a theme going on right now where people are apologizing for who they are. And it's it's hard to watch. It's hard to watch people bend their knee, basically like that. This whole this whole thing of saying I can't breathe this whole thing of saying, like bending your knees, shining black people's shoes, kissing the boots of other people. It is so hard for me to watch any human being do that not just white people. It's to watch anyone grow grovel like that and put themselves in that position. It's just, you know, the cool thing about humanity is like, if you look at the Buddha, it's like, erect spine, like, like sitting on like that, that being fully aware, is being fully yourself and upon unapologetic, you know, your chin is up, you know. All I can say is that's a very low vibration thing as well to try to get people to apologize for who they are.
 
Sara Yamtich  11:34
I agree. I agree completely that that there's if I am in a plot and I come from a background, I had a single mom who apologized for for herself all the time. And that is what I have had to overcome over the course of my life is like, I'm not going to apologize for who I am. This is who I am. I want to acknowledge where maybe I'm not seeing the full picture but like Please, please enlighten me that doesn't necessarily need to be mean that needs me that I am shameful,
 
Sean Morgan  12:06
right? Yes. Yeah. And that's something I wanted to talk about with you is this idea of balance and the idea of not being left or right or up or down, or not being categorized or compartmentalised. But just to always be seeking the balance of being like, Okay, I'm going to be humble. And I'm also going to be proud of who I am. Isn't it possible to be both? You don't always have absolutely one thing or the other. Right?
 
Sara Yamtich  12:34
Absolutely. I mean, one thing Yeah, there's a lot of things come up for me. One is from a spiritual standpoint. One can get too grandiose, if one believes oneself to be God, right. But we are I believe, we are all gone collectively. We are all God collectively together. And and if we get too grandiose with that, We well we run off the rails we go manically. We may be psychotic in some way exactly if we went off the rails with that too much. So there has to be simultaneous. I am divine, I'm connected to the divine and I am humble and I am I am nothing and I am. There's this debt, I am void. You have to be you have to be both. So that's one thing that comes up and I
 
Sean Morgan  13:28
know younger or lower than any other
 
Sara Yamtich  13:31
being exactly. Yeah, we are one. And the other thing that comes up for me is is and this is something that has been my journey a lot. And I I engage in a lot of like plant medicine ceremonies since moving down here. And a big lesson for me even as a teenager doing psychedelics and all these things, is as I am facing the darkness as I'm looking at the darkness And believe me, I've been looking so you probably Looking at the darkness a lot in the last few months, and how do I continue to look at the darkness and maintain neutrality? Because if we get too sucked into one polarized polarization if we get too sucked into the actual darkness that's polarizing and then if we get too reactive to that, and start writing, or or start screaming from the mountaintops with anger, we're getting we're getting polarized. So how can we look at these things without getting too caught up? In the emotional reactions to it?
 
Sean Morgan  14:34
Yeah, yeah. You know, the way I see it is, it's like a magnification. It just makes it really, really clear what we don't stand for and then as a result, what we do stand for. So for example, that when you start looking at this, this phenomenon of children being victimized around the world, then you know, okay, what I stand for is preserving innocence. And I stand for the human rights and the rights of children and then, you know, stand up for it, like really actually do it, you know and be be part of the solution. And then I think there's a level of psychic or energetic protection that comes from standing on that. Standing up for what's right, basically.
 
Sara Yamtich  15:26
Yeah, and doing it. I agree and also coming from a place of inspiration and wanting to inspire, as opposed to wanting to shame shoot people down or any of that, but like, how can I inspire people? How can I stand in my truth and from a from a neutral place and inspire others to sort of join me?
 
Sean Morgan  15:52
Yeah, exactly. I think I think it is about the way that you fight you Is with goodness, you know? So if there are people victimizing children, yes, there are those people who play the role of exposing crimes and investigating and all that stuff, but probably the average person, the best thing that they can do is help children in their life, and stand up for what's right and so forth. But, you know, we are kind of getting to this point as a collective culture that we may end up inadvertently covering up for the crimes of others. A good example of this is pizza gates. So so there are people when they hear the word pizza gates, they'll just say, I'm not going to look into this at all. It's just ridiculous. And those people might inadvertently be covering out for for child sex trafficking. And so, so this is what I mean when we had our conversation before which is it's so important to listen, it's so important to learn. It's so important to connect instead of saying Shut off your mind and shut off other perspectives because there is that chance. It's not 100% but there's a chance that you're going to end up being part of the problem and so
 
Sara Yamtich  17:10
that you're complicit with, like going back to the conversation of pre Nazi Germany. What if, by not looking into these things, you are part of the problem and complicit in whatever evil things are happening in the world. One thing that I've been saying to my friends that I am able to have conversations with these things about about these things with his, including my mother, is just open up the possibility space, open up your heart and your mind to all possibilities just for a brief moment, even if it's only a 2% chance. I never looked in the pizza gate before during the election and all that I was like, Oh, God, all right, all right wing, you know, blah, blah, blah. I was not even conceiving it a moment of consideration. And I consider myself I considered myself As a relatively awake person at the time, and still, I wasn't giving these things any consideration. Now, I also didn't have any friends that spoke to me in the way that I would like to speak that I speak to people. And I wish that I did. But, you know, just open your heart, open your mind to all the possibilities on the off chance, maybe, maybe this person that's telling you this thing is right. Maybe this information is right. Go look at it, and just prove it. Please go look at all those emails. Like actually read the actual emails, read the actual they exist online, publicly read them and say this isn't what they're about. And then great. Let's have a conversation about that.
 
Sean Morgan  18:42
Right? Yes. So so that kind of brings us back to the point that some people are not willing to have a conversation. So and I had an experience, like you were I was working for a company, I was selling websites and I was, you know, it's a big thing as a salesperson to connect with. With your potential clients and as someone that they think that they can trust, and then you know, you're able to have a business relationship with them. And so this person wanted to be my friend on or my connection on LinkedIn. And so he connected with me LinkedIn, they started sending me private messages on LinkedIn. And this is like, you know, for selling this person in a website that cost several thousand dollars. And then all of a sudden, he said, Shawn, the deal's off, I looked at your Twitter account, and there's just something posted there that just makes me know that we wouldn't do business together. And that that that hurts in the same way that maybe not as an extreme, but when that person called you a racist, it's like, wait a minute, you read one or several posts on my social media, and now you think I'm not a good person? I don't understand that. Like, do we have to share all the same beliefs to do business together like and the funny thing is, this was a white male from the United States. This is someone who Like, outsiders might say, Hey, you guys are in the same tribe. But no, not at all. And so it was, I was canceled, you know, my business was canceled, I was cancelled in that in that moment with that person. And I felt ashamed. I felt I felt like very shamed in that moment. And the scary thing is that many people who experienced that, they'll just be like, Oh, no, like, I need to have social acceptance. I'm going to delete my social media stuff. I'm going to conform, and I'm gonna just try to fit in with everyone and just to try to preserve my livelihood. But luckily, what ended up happening is I got laid off from from the job because of COVID-19. And I just stepped out there. I was just like, Okay, I'm going I'm going public with this coupon stuff I've been researching for two years. And it went viral like to millions of views and, and, and then I have basically I have a new job because because I was willing to put myself out there.
 
Sara Yamtich  21:09
I you know, it's beautiful I that's when I found you as during that whole viral because I was in it to in March I was I wasn't researching queueing on for two years. No, March is when I started, like really looking into all of this stuff. And then I found I found you, I was one of your first Patreon subscribers. And I was Yeah, so I'm grateful that you got laid off. Yeah. Well, are
 
Sean Morgan  21:36
you familiar with the I'm sure you are because you said you do sacred plant medicine ceremonies, the idea that conflict or the shadow or anything like that is really the sacred ground and the opportunity for growth. So, so you and I have kind of been commiserating here about these people who refuse to have a conversation they refuse to to open up. They refuse to Connect and they're trying to shame us. So there's that conflict, that tension in the air that could happen at any moment with any person. What do you think about the opportunity? What can we do? Can we do anything at all?
 
Sara Yamtich  22:16
Yes, I think so. And I think that you're doing it and I think that I'm doing it and that is that we continue and a and as much of a open hearted compassionate, loving way continue to speak our truth.
 
Sean Morgan  22:31
Yeah. The liberals are evil but but that's not true.
 
Sara Yamtich  22:36
It's so it's so untrue. It is not even close to true because I that's the world I come from, it's the world I've immersed in still and to a large degree, not so much the same as Costa Rica, but I'm pretty like outside of the political duality role realm now but that is
 
Sean Morgan  22:53
the vibe them they are putting off that that would be that kind of natural reaction like you were putting out disinformation. Well, you're covering up for someone else's crimes and then it just back and forth and then no one's hearing anyone no one's there's no opportunity for growth.
 
Sara Yamtich  23:08
Yeah, one of my missions I feel like and that that's coming more becoming more clear to me is one of my missions is to help be a bridge. To help be a bridge, I don't care about left or right. I don't care about any of these things at all. I just want to be able to have conscious conversations with people about our own respective perspective on on what is true and filtering out as much as possible what other people would think of us what other how, how we would be perceived by the public, we've got to filter that out to get to the real to the real truth.
 
Sean Morgan  23:49
Yes, that's what shaming is about right? It's shaming is saying. You are the seat label. Okay, yeah, I never even thought of it. As you cannot see. But I thought you were at this label that is not socially accepted so therefore you are rejected. But yeah tell me about the you you you don't you go speak
 
Sara Yamtich  24:13
well that's the I remember I've just thinking back to my initial feelings back in whatever that was 2013 I think when the the the Ani difranco debacle when that happened I remember wanting to speak out about it. I wanted to say like, and I think I did, I posted one thing on the Facebook about it, but I remember having this feeling of like, ooh, can I come out and talk about her? Are they all gonna yell at me and call me a racist? And then I had this like, wow, I'm technically by their standards. I'm not allowed to speak my truth right now. That's up. And so I went ahead and posted anyway and I think that's getting to the answer to your question is that we have to we have to do it anyway. Like, I was nervous about about having this conversation with you because The friends I have in the company you might be cancelled
 
Sean Morgan  25:03
by your own
 
Sara Yamtich  25:06
people and I don't want to be cancelled by my people and
 
Sean Morgan  25:09
but anyone that would cancel someone else, maybe they're not someone you would want to be with.
 
Sara Yamtich  25:15
That's I mean, that's what that's ultimately what what you know is true and what it comes down to is, regardless of you and I have some things that we disagreed about, which I'm not sure if we do or
 
Sean Morgan  25:24
not sure we do, and how can you agree with someone on everything right and
 
Sara Yamtich  25:28
agree on everything. But regardless if we have some things that we disagree on, to be able to have a conversation with me or anybody about anything and and do it from a place of neutrality, compassion, love acceptance. I mean, that's, I think that's how we that's how we evolve and how we can finally come into this sort of, like, evolving collective consciousness that I believe we're moving towards. I believe we
 
Sean Morgan  25:55
are too and, you know, on the outside, it might be hard to see it. Right when you see burning buildings and burning cop cars and graffiti everywhere, and we our own friends and family won't talk to you or connect with you, it can feel like this is not going well. But that is that is how it works. This is not some kind of smooth transition to higher consciousness, right? I mean, no, yeah, I don't know that it works that way. Maybe it does in the next dimension.
 
Sara Yamtich  26:27
Maybe in our, in our next iteration we can we can evolve with with without so much friction. But I think in this where we are now in this iteration of the three dimensional Earth, it reads, evolution requires a little bit of friction. It requires a little bit of challenge.
 
Sean Morgan  26:44
Yeah, I mean, look at the hero's journey. Look at the journey of, of Buddha of all of the stages. They didn't just wake up, enlightened. in the morning. They had to go through some kind of
 
Sara Yamtich  27:00
challenge to get exactly. So all of these things that are coming up the and here's the thing, racism and oppression in the United States is very, very real. That doesn't mean that it wasn't manufactured at some point. It's real, it can be both manufactured and real. And so, so these things that are coming to the surface right now or things that we need to address, I think
 
Sean Morgan  27:26
that's the good point there. There's some subtlety and some nuance to that needs to be acknowledged. It's not like you have to choose a side either there is racism or there isn't or there is police brutality there isn't. I think that's what's making some people's heads explode is that Donald Trump is trying to pass a police reform bills like acknowledging that there is there is a problem. So you can't just say, oh, Donald Trump doesn't doesn't care about police brutality or racism. But going back to the idea that conflict actually creates higher conscious I want to just point out, I'm a new, I'm a new Father, I'm a new husband spin. I have a two year old child, a two year old marriage. And, and so, what I'm on this journey of getting married and having a child, I realized that that is how you grow your marriage is not some kind of fairy tale where you never have a fight. You never disagree. It's actually men and women are just like built differently. And when you put them together, they're just sharpening each other. You know, like iron sharpens iron. And, and same thing with having a child like any sane person would not choose to not sleep for a year, but it's the greatest gift in the world to have a child and and you have to get your hands in the poop but it's through like that. Like, like being willing to give up everything for another being that you experienced through love.
 
Sara Yamtich  29:07
Mm hmm.
 
Sean Morgan  29:09
And you're, you're a parent as well, right?
 
Sara Yamtich  29:13
Yeah, I've got a five year old son.
 
Sean Morgan  29:16
So can you relate to that, that? That kind of like if we're dealing with people who are doing their temper tantrums and they won't listen to us, then that's where we can actually be a loving person. Like if we just have someone who agrees with us all the time. We don't really love them doing
 
Sara Yamtich  29:34
these moments. I just as I think about my parenting journey, and I'm a single mom and I have been almost the entire time. And, and I think about my my parenting journey, going through what I went through early on, and then going through these moments, these like temper tantrum moments where you could easily just be like, Oh my god, yell at your kids say Shut up. You know, and there are those moments where you do that I'm sure all of us, but those moments where you're like, Okay, what am I supposed to do right now? Okay? And you get down on the floor, and you look deeply into your kids eyes while they're going while they're going off the rails. And you say, and you say, Come here, and they said, No, we're so mad. And then you say, Okay, okay, I'll just wait for a minute. And then wait a minute and say, come here. And they come eventually, and they just hug and break down crying, and you hold them and hold them. And then it's done. And just had this beautiful, beautiful moment with your child where you gaze into their eyes and love them unconditionally and waited for them to come around. And I grow so much those moments because what am i available for that? You know what I mean? I'm usually busy working, cooking, doing things and like, when am I when? When am I available for that? It's no super challenging moments when I get down on the ground and gaze into somebody dies,
 
Sean Morgan  30:55
right? Yeah, that that is what it takes. And with the wearing a mask and social distancing. And don't go to church and don't be in a community. It's this recipe, this conspiracy to keep us separate. And it's just impossible. You can't keep humanity separated. We, we are social beings we are, we want to be connected. And these people who are thinking they're going to be okay, by alienating other people and shaming other people. They're, they're suffering, and they're going to suffer more, the more people that alienate and they shame, and like you said, it's a low vibration and they're, they're putting themselves in that vibration by doing that. So we need to be available for them. I think. Yeah.
 
Sara Yamtich  31:51
I agree. I agree. I mean, I that's that's the thing is is so these last few months, I moved down to You're sort of on a on an intuitive premonition about a year ago think thank god I'm so grateful I'm moved down here. And it does give me this this sort of privileged place from which to look at things right and i can and I've gone down all the rabbit and wagon I'm sure living in a
 
Sean Morgan  32:17
tropical perfect place kind of privileged
 
Sara Yamtich  32:19
wherever it lives living in a tropical paradise, where I can go to the beaches, I mean, the beaches are technically closed, but we can go to the beaches and see it the grandiosity of the beach and, and be immersed in the jungle and we don't have nearly so many restrictions here for one. Well, for lots of reasons, they're not nearly so many restrictions here we go through the motions of the restrictions, but the people here are not the cases the cases are really low here. But anyway, I have this this beautiful place from which to sort of look at the world and to do some some of this research and I know I feel like the things that I'm learning and the things that I believe to be true. It's taking it. I almost have to regulate my nerve, I have to regulate my nervous system on a daily basis to be able to to continuously process the information that's coming in.
 
Sean Morgan  33:17
I'm learning a lot right now.
 
Sara Yamtich  33:19
I'm learning a lot right now for the last few months. Yeah, I mean, I'm always learning a lot. But these last few months have been intense, and my morning, so crazy. Those last every morning for the last few years, I've had a morning ritual that involves like dance and meditation and prayer and all these things. And for these last couple of months, I've just been praying for more information, give me more information in a way that my nervous system can handle. I want more information in a way that my nervous system can handle. And I see part of my role is as this type of information becomes available to more and more people on the planet, I want to be one of the people who's here for them, who's available when they're on the floor, crying screaming and angry and sad and scared. I'm going to be here waiting to hug them and look into their eyes and say it's okay.
 
Sean Morgan  34:09
So, yeah, and you know, doesn't matter how much I've researched the darkness and the dark agenda of people in power I've never given up hope for humanity because when I look around a regular people, they're very similar to me in that they're not they're just just like me trying to make it through life. You know, this is not some kind of thing where like most of the humans on Earth are evil. No, it's a it's actually a small number of people. It just happened to be really powerful, really rich and control a lot of things but but the regular folks are good folks. And and. And so I have a lot. It's actually what gives me hope is the fact that I know it It's hard to keep information secret in the information age. So I know everything is going to come to light. And I know that most people are so good in their hearts that when they get that information, they'll do the right thing with it. So, so And another thing that I think people like us from the United States may not realize at first is that civilization, the way it is now isn't completely bad. Like there are some things that we want to preserve about it. There are lots of bad things about it. There are lots of bad things about every civilization. But there are some things like for example, I live in Brazil part of the year because my wife is Brazilian, and they put walls around all of their houses to try to keep people out and keep the thieves from stealing everything. And then she came to the US and said, well, you guys don't have walls around your houses, you just have people's yards are connected and you don't even bother each other. And then so that's just a small example of how there's some some goodness in the world and, and we can reach that and we can preserve. Because I think one tactic that's used is to try to say like something like the United States is evil or or the military is evil, or police are evil or Western civilization, Everything about it is just about oppressing people, when Western civilization is the one thing that's keeping people from being in slavery, because we have laws and a constitution and so forth. So traveling around the world can definitely wake you up to some things that are good about democracy and a republic and rule of law and so forth.
 
Sara Yamtich  36:53
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think there's beautiful I think inherently humans are very Beautiful Creatures. I think that a lot of what what I have come to understand from my perspective is that a lot of the darkness that that humans do engage in. Not that we don't need to take full self responsibility for it. We do have to take full responsibility for it, but that's not necessarily all our own. Doing, like trauma based. Yeah, exactly. It's trauma. So, you know, people it's like, it's like being like the trigger warnings and these types of things with regard to trauma like we, we might be victims of trauma, but it's ultimately our own responsibility to heal ourselves from that trauma. So as humans, I believe that we are victims of trauma, a lot of trauma, and ultimately we have to be our own saviors to heal ourselves from that trauma. And that can that can take the form of us taking care of each other and removing the walls The figurative and literal walls that we've got around our figurative and literal houses.
 
Sean Morgan  38:06
Yeah, it's there's a collective decision that has to be made because I think a lot of people at the top right now have the dominance hierarchy in humanity. They feel a sense of protection, there's, there's a reason why they just keep on choosing the dark path. Because they really feel protected. They really feel like even if they wanted to give it all up and to choose a different path, they're afraid that they wouldn't have the protection, they're afraid they wouldn't be accepted, and all of that. So like I said before, if we can make ourselves available for people to to actually admit their, their their sins and their guilt and not be of course, it depends on the level if it's if it's crime. Against Humanity then you have to do the time. But But if it's if it's a belief, it's something that you think you might get cancelled for, or whatever, then if we can actually be compassionate and be tolerant then there can be this shift where people won't choose choose the dark path they'll choose the light path because that's where they're going to be actually truly loved and and that's what we all want more than anything. So where can people go to learn more about you and what you do?
 
Sara Yamtich  39:35
Yeah, so I've got got all the usual the website resonate with Sarah with Sarah with no h resonate with Sarah and
 
Sean Morgan  39:42
that's where people can get marketing help.
 
Sara Yamtich  39:45
Yeah, so I do Facebook and Instagram ads for spiritual entrepreneurs and thought leaders. So yeah, somebody somebody in that domain for sure, hit me up and then got a Facebook page by the same name. Instagram by the same name.
 
Sean Morgan  40:02
And you do have your own podcast show.
 
Sara Yamtich  40:04
I have a podcast as well, thank you called conscious conversion. It's on Spotify, Apple podcasts, and it's on my website as well.
 
Sean Morgan  40:14
And that's all about how do you interview the entrepreneurs?
 
Sara Yamtich  40:18
Yeah. So I have a solo episode every once in a while, but I do my best thinking whenever I'm having a dialogue with somebody. So it's hard for me to break away from that format. But I have, yeah, amazing, amazing people that I talk with. And I invite you, of course, to join me sometime soon. But about all sorts of things relevant to what's going on in the world today. But also just, you know, we talked about this before we hit record, but like the spiritual, spiritual people typically have this inherent sort of vow of poverty or like, money is inherently evil or marketing is icky. And so I want to have conversations with people about how they've overcome that or how they have transmuted that. Because money might actually be inherently evil. I'm not I'm not saying it's not, I don't know. But what what my big thing is, is that it's it's an energy exchange, no matter what money is an energy exchange, and we can use that power for good or we can use that power for evil. Like let's use that energy exchange for good in the world. Let's use the Masters tools to dismantle the Masters house. And the same goes with using Facebook, which you know, I don't necessarily want to fill you know, whose pocketbooks but we've got a critical mass here, and how can we how can we communicate to them? And until until money becomes irrelevant, let's let's utilize it for the betterment of the planet.
 
Sean Morgan  41:50
So yeah, well, cool. I look forward to being on conscious conversion and having a great time in Costa Rica with your child and your I guess that's it. on your lap.
 
42:00
Yes. Love kitty.
 
Sean Morgan  42:05
Have an awesome time in Costa Rica and I'll talk to you again soon. Thank you so much for having me.
 
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