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Sean Morgan 00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus. Get the free ebook at Q anon faq.com. Okay, we're here with Dr. Michelle Chavez. Thank you for joining us today. Can you tell us a little bit about your background? Dr. Shay Sean.
Dr. Michelle Chavez 00:20
Yeah, I'm I'm a nature path and a consultant to the natural products industry. Scientific advisor with the semi sebenza Group of Companies are one of the world's largest and leading material suppliers that are used in just about every company that makes supplements and you know, natural medicines they they definitely know of that company.
Sean Morgan 00:45
Okay, great. And so how quickly after this novel Coronavirus, started spreading did you start taking a look at the origins and the the qualities of this one?
Dr. Michelle Chavez 00:59
Well, you know what central thing is yeah when this started to take off this this virus this novel, novel virus first thing I thought of was zinc and you know zinc and your other natural compounds or elements such as you know zinc and there's there's so many others one of the first things that that was considered was mana Lauren which has a specific mechanism to disintegrating the the, the virus itself but zinc really it through multiple searches what I found was this is very very much at the onset we're talking back in February that zinc inhibits the what's known as your messenger RNA of the virus, one of the key components to it replicating and it was very interesting because I had done a lot of work Many, many years ago back during the AIDS crisis, and zinc was one of the really big compounds that was suggested to us. And then, you know, Dr. zelenka, comes along with the hydroxychloroquine and the zinc combo. And lo and behold, there was literature going back to I believe, science typic studies going back to I believe 2006 showing how it inhibits SARS cobit or SARS code, not SARS, code two, but you know, SARS code, so I was looking at that, and then things started to fall in line in regards to how there's also a Selenium connection, and the founder and chairman of the company, I work for Dr. Mohammed Majeed. He's kind of an authority or I should say isn't authority on Selenium? And then I started to explore that and that's Kind of cause this whole you know, cascade, so to speak, snowball effect of some very interesting discoveries that believe I've made in regards to why certain people why does this virus only kill certain people? Why does this virus only really severely infect certain people while other people, you know, like my uncle, he sneezed three times and then went back to playing golf. Right, you know, you know, and he didn't even coffee sneeze, but he tested positive and, you know, so what, why is this virus so oddly selected, and I think I found one of the main contributing factors.
Sean Morgan 03:51
Okay, I definitely want to find that out. So we want to dig into that. But first, I'm curious as to why the mainstream media attacks Doctors elanco why they attacked Trump for suggesting this combination of the Z Pak, hydroxychloroquine and zinc. Why when people in the United States test positive for Coronavirus and are symptomatic, why these doctors and these different professionals out there, don't give them any treatment options. They seem to just think they can just put them on a ventilator or something, which might make things a lot worse. So there seems to be some policy issues. And I just saw in the news, like everyone seemed to like act all surprised that the Henry Ford study from Detroit showed that Yeah, hydroxychloroquine is actually effective at lower rates. So did that confuse you the the discrepancy between research and what the media was saying?
Dr. Michelle Chavez 04:55
No, because it's about one thing. Ultimately, sadly. And that's called Big scratch. You know, big pharma big money. And you know, you look at, there's so many other drugs. I'm not even going to talk about natural compounds this let's talk about drugs, but they're off patent. So now they're generics. So there are h2 antagonists, which are generally used for ulcers, you know, like for monta Dean, redhead to Dean. Dave showed there's some anecdotal studies, or I shouldn't say anecdotal studies, but there's some studies that show that that actually lessens the outcome of a SAR of COVID infection. Then there's also I'm sure you've heard recently in the news, dex methadone. Now that's these are all generic drugs. So they're going to get a blip of attention. Just a blip of attention in my personal opinion. Whereas the reason why drug reps to sphere
Sean Morgan 06:04
exams very expensive and it's being touted.
Dr. Michelle Chavez 06:07
Exactly, exactly, and I think the reason why hydroxychloroquine got such a bad rap and it's been around what 50 years and it said has a proven track record is because President Trump mentioned it. Right, dex methadone would get the same ration of crap. Pardon my French, if the President was talking about how dex methadone significantly reduces the intensity and the length of infection. You know, the the the manifestation of symptomology significantly decreases with dex methadone. But if the president starts talking about it, then it'll be persecute I'm sure it would be persecuted like hydroxychloroquine.
Sean Morgan 06:55
So hopefully, I mean, I'm really crossing my fingers here. Now that the Henry Ford study came out, there'll be some policy changes. So that, you know, not only in an emergency setting, they can use hydroxychloroquine. But, you know, preventatively, you know, off label pharmacists and doctors can start administering these types of drugs. But what else? What is this missing component? You were talking about how how this, this virus affects some people more than others. Can we dig into that? Sure, sure.
Dr. Michelle Chavez 07:29
I think what I discovered with the Selenium link was interesting when I was talking with Dr. Majeed, about the, the importance of zinc. And it was, I mean, literally within a week or two, before we started hearing about zinc, and that's only because of my history with using zinc and practice with HIV patients and etc. Dr. Machine had said, well, there's a Selenium. How about Selenium? So and I thought to myself, well, you know, selenium was widely touted also as being a very important nutrient to trace element for those with HIV and, and that's the RNA retrovirus. So there's a lot of similarities. And it's interesting that, you know, depending on who you're listening to, this is COVID demand made virus and what they think 23 or 20% of it is been, there's the same genetics as, as HIV. So as I was looking into that, as I was looking into selenium, then certain things started to come into play, and that was the areas of China that got decimated by the virus. We're also areas that had a high rate of cations disease,
Sean Morgan 08:48
what is the patient's disease, that
Dr. Michelle Chavez 08:51
is the disease where the heart muscle itself, to use simpler terms just deteriorates. it weakens. It's kind of a myopic, cardio type of cardiomyopathy, but it's specific to Selenium deficiency. And I thought to myself, hell, that parallels rhabdomyolysis, case occations diseases basically wrapped on my licence of the heart. And what is rhabdomyolysis? Well, it is a muscle pain, a muscle weakness and pain. That's always indicative of your ego. Staton drug use. Those are the drugs that are used for cholesterol management, you know, so, Simba stat and the torva stat and the first one was by Merck sharpened dome called Mevacor, which was a blow of a status. So if it ends in a stat and it's one of these drugs, and one of the most common side effects of these drugs is muscle pain and muscle weakening and what the hell is the heart? muscle so yeah, non stop. muscle. And I thought to myself Hmm, these areas of China that got decimated by by COVID are also areas that have a very high rate of cations disease due to the soil having very low Selenium. It doesn't mean that those people were on a static drug. But I started to do the math, so to speak, you know? And then I started as I just thought to myself, well, what the hell let me do a search status and selenium metabolism, and boom, what came up Shawn was amazing. You know, these aren't opinions or you know, somebody's you know, 10 cents, so to speak. These are peer reviewed scientific studies, showing how status inhibit Selenium metabolism. Now what happens is Selenium specifically goes down this elaborate pathway. And it produces what's known as gluten per oxidase. And anytime you hear peroxide, you know, think of like hydrogen peroxide, you know, and what does hydrogen peroxide do? It just kind of basically kills bacteria and viruses on contact? Well, our bodies actually produce a form of that. And that's known as glue to find peroxidase but that can only be produced in the presence of a Salerno protein.
Sean Morgan 11:44
Okay, so, are you saying that the people who are dying the most are probably on certain drugs?
Dr. Michelle Chavez 11:51
I would if they're not, or deficient in this learning? Exactly. Exactly. And what I find interesting is, you know, they're saying horn more younger people are testing are, you know, have I noticed I noticed how they're really manipulating how big media is manipulating the or wordsmithing the terms when they say, you know, well, there is XYZ cases will say cases of COVID. Well, what does that mean is recovered either Well, well, not just that, does that mean you've tested positive and you sneeze three times or cough twice and you're you're fine or the 90% are asymptomatic. Exactly. Or does that mean you're in a hospital on your way to a ventilator? You know, so they're manipulating the words. So what does that mean? But I've noticed a huge emphasis since the second round of the infection where they're starting to sit where they're really emphasising Seeing younger people having it. So I asked myself, okay, what does that mean? And if those younger individuals are actually symptomatic, the US has the highest rate of obesity are one of the highest rates of obesity in the world, especially amongst, you know, people under 40, under 30. You know, and how many of these people are have high cholesterol, and therefore, are on the status? I mean, I know of I have family members in their mid 20s that are on status for God's sakes. Right. You know, so
Sean Morgan 13:44
that that makes me want to put out a message here to people who might be Selenium deficient, like, hey, wouldn't hurt to get on a supplement or something like that. So what are some of the ways that people can get Selenium in their diets?
Dr. Michelle Chavez 14:01
Well, the single greatest concentration of selenium food wise would be ironically a Brazil nut. You know, I think he knows something about Brazil. But that is probably the single highest source to work he a couple Brazil nuts three times a week. that'll definitely bring up your Selenium levels. But it's, it's multifactorial, because how much does the person way? Are they honest? Are they honest statten drug, you know, there's the term nutrient deficiency, but a term that needs to be used more is insufficiency. deficiency tends to be defined in a very black and white, you know, way, you know, well, if you don't have You know, like like, like your recommended daily, you know, you have to have this much and you won't be deficient. Okay, you might not be deficient but Is that sufficient for your situation? your bodyweight the meds, you're on your diet, etc.
Sean Morgan 15:20
So, you know, and I believe you. You mentioned in traditional Chinese medicine they use an herb to treat Coronavirus and it has something to do with zinc or Selenium. Is that right?
Dr. Michelle Chavez 15:34
No, it has to do with Furin. There's actually, there's actually two but one of the herbs that is in the Chinese within Chinese herbal medicine, part of the top 50 most commonly used botanicals is Andrew graphics paniculata and that works on a different level that works more on the what's known as the inhibiting the fear and where the virus actually docks and gets into the cell at the lung tissue.
Sean Morgan 16:12
I was curious if, if in Africa or different areas of the world, there were some botanical or alternative treatment options that kind of paralleled your explanation of the zinc and selenium?
Dr. Michelle Chavez 16:29
Well, the zinc and selenium let me go to your question on Africa. A colleague of mine who is in Nigeria, very, very, very well versed gentleman has has discussed that issue. And in, in looking at the literature, you know, a lot of those areas will take hydroxychloroquine when for malaria, obviously, and that's that's actually opening up the session. To receive zinc, which has a different mechanism than selenium, what happens with Selenium is, like I say Selenium goes down this elaborate pathway that produces glue define proxy days. And and and emphasise the word peroxide proxy days. It's an enzyme that literally just scrubs the virus and kills it. Well, there's this weird phenomenon known as an amplification loop. And when the virus is replicating, it produces a lot of free radicals. And if those free radicals are not quenched, by glue to phi and oxidase, it actually starts looping faster and faster. So it starts replicating faster and faster and faster. So that's the way glue defying proxies works through Selenium. But if a status are taken inhibits Selenium Trigger of gluta time for oxidase. Zinc works on a different level by inhibiting the DNA replication of the virus but you know when you use them together That's beautiful. And to get back to your question on the on Africa and China with you know, with us, you know, in a normal scenario, the Chinese will often use Andrew graphics particular data and they'll often use Wormwood which is our tummies. Janjua our tummies. Daniel has a similar mechanism of hydroxychloroquine opening up the cell. So those minerals can get in and do what they need to do like Selenium like zinc. But, and then you go to Africa, it's very common that people are taking hydroxychloroquine or Clorox when its predecessor to
Sean Morgan 18:59
prevent malaria. But a side effect of that a good side effect of that is, is less, SARS cobit or various other, you know, viruses, it seems to me because I'm not a doctor, and I'm not very familiar with these things, but it seems like zinc and selenium and if especially if you get it from something like Brazil nuts and food, it's not something that has a lot of country indications. It's pretty safe, low side effect type of thing. If you just want to incorporate that in your diet. What are your thoughts on that?
Dr. Michelle Chavez 19:30
abs? Absolutely true. You know, it's, each one would really have to make each shovel fulls to get into problems with either Selenium or zinc. And again, it gets back to the whole deficiency versus insufficiency. You know, the RTA as an example for zinc for Selenium is actually has variants, which was one of the first two nutrients to have a variance of anywhere from 50 to 200 micrograms, and that's for the US it depends on on what country you're into. There's other countries that have their recommended dailies that are much lower. But that's in a perfect peachy world environment, petri dish world environment, as I like to say, and who the hell lives in that no one.
Sean Morgan 20:28
I'm sure you want to get this information to people in the field and to perhaps in your in your, your field. What are some ways that maybe we can do that just with this episode, or maybe other ways that you're considering it? Because I know this is a pretty recent discovery, or theory. So what are some ways that we can get the word out to perfect medical professionals to start looking into this avenue of looking at Millennium status and so forth for Coronavirus?
Dr. Michelle Chavez 21:00
Well, they can, what I'd like to do is send you all these studies from off the top of my head, I think I have at least 11 that show that there has to be a connection, you know, the way I look at it is, if, if you use a little bit of logic and common sense, one plus one equals two, you know, you can figure it out, you can do the math is as I like to say, but what I can do is I can send you those studies and you can put it on a link, you know, on you know, on the show, and they could download the you know, they can they can download the studies and and if, if one person doesn't have to have, in my opinion, a scientific background, to just read the abstract read the key points, and it's pretty easy do huh beautify on kills the virus. The phones produced by Selenium gluten or oxidase that is and Stanton's inhibit Selenium come on
Sean Morgan 22:10
and then and then that last point which is the you believe that people on on status that are Selenium deficient or dying Coronavirus, more and do you have some anecdotal evidence of that with the areas of China that are being hit the hardest? I noticed any other trends besides the those areas in China that are hit the hardest? Are there any other studies or maybe kind of like the Henry Ford study where they retro actively looked back at people who had this novel Corona virus and what their comorbidities were and how old they were in different factors?
Dr. Michelle Chavez 22:48
Well, there's definitely a huge link with those that do. winded hospitalised you know, to you know, whether, okay, yeah, I have a little bit of a fever. You know, like my uncle, I, you know, cop two, three times, you know, go home and you know, it'll take care of itself. The people who wind up in hospital and God forbid, you know, to the point to where they're on a ventilator, we know that they're in the older category, you know, 60 Plus, okay. And we know that the it, there is a higher rate with the African American or the black population. Now, we know that also that populous group has a higher rate of hypertension, which falls into one of the metabolic syndrome categories. And they also have a higher rate of diabetes, also part of the metabolic syndrome category. So therefore, they're more apt to be on a static drug. Okay, you know, to bring down the cholesterol. Now metabolic syndrome is Something that I've lectured around the world on quite a bit because it's just a devastating condition. And when people say well what is metabolic syndrome? One of the difference or one of the defining differences between the word disease and syndrome is a syndrome is a is a collective of a number of conditions that are managed or subclinical. So maybe you're on the high end, your blood pressure's on high end of normal, or maybe it's managed. Now it's back in the normal category, but that's only because you're taking a medication to bring down your blood pressure. Same thing with blood sugar, but metabolic syndrome, very much falls into that age category. overweight, elevated cholesterol and or triglyceride elevated blood sugar elevated blood pressure Fatty Liver. Um, and with women, one of the contributing factors is a PC OS, polycystic ovarian syndrome. And all these things even though they might be clinically managed, puts the person into that category of metabolic syndrome. And to bring it back to SARS, COVID and COVID-19. That is the majority of the people that fall to this
Sean Morgan 25:32
virus, the mortality rate is higher. Exactly
Dr. Michelle Chavez 25:35
what Yes, I almost want to say it's, it's the metabolic syndrome virus. Oh, wow. Yeah, I yeah, I almost want to call it that, because that is most definitely who would preys upon. Now let's go back to the, excuse me, the younger populace that's being really touted in their favour. They're obese. Exactly. How many of those Okay, they might be 25 how it might be 25 years of age, how many of those young pop you know, people are overweight type, hypertensive, diabetic, etc, etc. And what is part of that category with traditional allopathic treatment? Staton drugs, okay, elevated cholesterol and triglycerides always goes with it.
Sean Morgan 26:31
Well, I think this is information that could save lives and I'm going to take all of those 11 plus studies, put them in the show notes. I'm going to personally hand deliver that. I'm going to hand deliver this video to some other doctors I've interviewed such as Dr. Nick Poots, Dr. Christiane Northrup, and others and, and let's, let's see if what they think about it and let's get their response and see if there's a consensus we can start to build community on this and get the word out to people who are in the field and dealing with people who are on status that maybe you could save their life with a little bit of selenium. So salutely So anything you want to say as a disclaimer, because I know sometimes when you go out there and you start speaking about Coronavirus and treatment patients.
Dr. Michelle Chavez 27:20
Yeah. Thank you on that, I guess I should say, from a legal perspective, I should say, I know what I would do. This is what I would do if I were, God forbid, fell into this category. But you know, these are nutritional supplements. I'm not giving any medical advice. I'm just trying to say you might want to the individual might want to do the math. And if they are taking any of these medications, they might want to make sure they're Selenium adequate, as I like to say nutrient adequate, and I also wanted to mention the importance of B six Because B six vitamin B six actually plays a very important role in metabolising, organic Selenium into an active form for the formation of glue to find proxy days. So getting adequate amounts of B six, and I won't get started on that, but there's so many drugs that in that really tax the need for V six diuretics alone, you know, so that's an important factor too, although it's a, I want to call it a sub factor, you know,
Sean Morgan 28:44
so but these three things can be found in a multivitamin. Do you think people are that's an adequate way of getting these things or do you think people can try to get in their diets or is there a specific form and
Dr. Michelle Chavez 28:57
it depends on kind of depends on the on the a multivitamin, you know, I always suggest taking a good multi I kind of considered an insurance policy because, you know, when a person's diet might be good, but your diet is only as good as the soil it's come from, you know, your, your salad might look great, but how nutrient dense is it? You know, that's that's a huge question. So I definitely advocate taking a good multiple, but it's going to depend on the multiple I think everybody should get, in my opinion, at least 2020 milligrammes of vitamin A vitamin D, six a day, and selenium. I think most definitely if you're in living in the West living in North America and the typical sad diet, as they call it. typical American diet. I think getting 200 micrograms a day of selenium is is is very good. Would be nice. That's what you would do if you were in exactly what I would do. Yeah, thank you.
Right. Well, it's it's
Sean Morgan 30:14
brave of you to to talk about this. There are only a few doctors out there who are speaking about Coronavirus just because the blowback is so strong. So thank you for coming on the show and after I get the response from Dr. Kapoor and Dr. Northrup and I'll I'll send it to Dr. butare and Dr. Shiva I'm not in contact with them, but I'm going to send it to them as well because they're brave enough to speak out about this. So then we can maybe we can do a follow up interview after we check in with all these doctors and see what they think about this.
Dr. Michelle Chavez 30:48
I would love it or maybe we can do a if I can brush up on my technology, maybe a kind of a roundtable I think elite is something you know, I think that would be that would be great. I'd love to I've met Dr. Guitar many, many, many, many years ago, at a medical conference in the States. I don't know if you'd remember me or not. But I would love to do a roundtable with these guys. So yeah, I'd be fantastic if you could arrange that, Shawn.
Sean Morgan 31:16
I will. And everyone, just look in the show notes below. I'm gonna put a link to all of the 11 plus studies. And so you can do your own due diligence as well.
Dr. Michelle Chavez 31:25
Yeah, I believe it's lemon, Allah, I'll go back through it. And yeah, if I if I come up with any others, I'll go ahead and send it to you.
Sean Morgan 31:35
Great. Well, thank you so much, Dr. Chavez for being on the show.
Dr. Michelle Chavez 31:39
Thank you, Shawn. This has been great. This has been great be well, muscles can hold a grudge.
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