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Sean Morgan  00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus. Get the free ebook at Q and on faq.com. Welcome to the show. Pastor James Calvin Tibbs. Can you tell me a little bit about your book that you wrote about praying for the president?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  00:22
Yes. Thank you for having me. Sean. I'm excited to discuss this because, as you know, the nation was birthed in prayer in the early chapters of a book that I wrote back before the President was actually actually officially into that office. I just knew and talked to some people and understood he's going to be in write the book because one thing then people are going to need to pray for the president, the Congress in the Senate. Well, that apparently has not happened at the level otherwise we would have a lot less antagonism and a lot more parody when it comes to To the basic things that all Americans want, you know, life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. So when I wrote the book to begin with the previous four years, it was an advance of what would happen in that four years. I have since adjusted the book to pick up pray for Jesus said, Pray for America, the President, the Congress, and the Senate.
 
Sean Morgan  01:21
And so this is an ebook. And when people get that ebook, they get a couple of other other ones about prayer for children. And
 
James Calvin Tibbs  01:31
yes, inside of it, because we realise in this society, everything is visible, a lot more visual. And so when it comes to people really just cracking open a book these days, it's kind of tough. So we have extracted what I call some gyms from the Scripture, and put in there for parents to pray for their own children. declarations are a major part of the weaponry, if you will, that every person has not just the believer. In other words, Words dictate are away. And we do something that we call course correction and narrative protection. narrative is the course the context of what we're saying. So if the narrative over our children speaks to their future, they get used to hearing it. Then when life comes upon them when they're at whatever age, they can easily make the difference in the course that needs to be corrected, because the words have already been set for the direction that they should go. And of course, the scripture says that Train up a child in the way that the child should go, so that when they are old, they won't depart.
 
Sean Morgan  02:36
Well, I'm a young father, and that means a lot to me. So, but can we talk a little bit about more of The Basics of prayer because I think this confuses a lot of people. Because they feel like they're talking to an imaginary person. They feel kind of stupid. Using these kind of rational sentences, and I okay, I'm speaking to the most omniscient divine being and I'm speaking kind of like a baby, hey, please give me that. Please give me this. You know, some people just go into a more as a meditation where they try to commune with spirits. Can you tell me about your process of prayer and what you've learned from scripture about how to pray?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  03:22
Well, you, you, you've covered a whole lot in that in that description, Shawn, essentially, on a very basic level, prayer is, as you know, communicating with God. on another level, prayer is a weapon. on another level, prayer is a language. So if we deal with just the language of prayer, we'd have to come to why would God even give us the language of prayer? Why would he put in us a need to have a conversation with him? Well, for obvious reasons, which are, the entire Earth project is just that it's an expansion programme. Scripture says that the heavens even the heavens are yours. Then he said that the earth is the Lord's footstool. So that tells us that this extension of God, from the heavens and there are multiple levels of heavens as it relates to the scripture in Isaiah. But the bottom line is, is that he gave the earth as a physical atmosphere or physical physical sphere, where he was looking to expand his already powerful kingdom, he already ran everything in the heavens, the heavens, even the heavens are the Lord's everyone in the spirit realm. That is a being and there are different beings in the spirit realm according to the book of Revelation. They already know God rooms that happens, there's no question about that. So why then create an earth? Why create a physical existence and then come to it and put yourself in a spirit in the spirit form inside of a person? Well, it's because the expansion programme had to reveal the omnipotence of God, meaning how powerful he is how wide He is that he can even come inside of a beam becomes subordinate to the beam, have the being talked to him and have himself inside of that beam. And that not makes sense to anybody until Jesus comes in because by the time Jesus gets here, he is revealing that the takeover programme that started with mankind, God extending his earthly roof from the heavens to a man, when it fell apart long before it fell apart, he knew that man would need him so he created a hole, if you will, a space where man would try to get back to its creator by conversation or the language and prayer is that method of getting that done.
 
Sean Morgan  05:44
But do we do it through our given language like we speak English? Do we say those words out loud? Do we say them in our mind? What is the structure? I mean, I know there's the Lord's prayer that Jesus taught us and I I'm sure there's a lot we could gather from that. But can you tell me more about the basics? How do you pray? Why do you pray that way? What's effective? What's not effective?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  06:11
That's a great question. You know, I actually pray a lot. In fact, I was on a broadcast the other day, suddenly, suddenly, because I was in bed, and I looked on Facebook to say, Hi, and next thing, you know, they're sending me the link, and off we go. And a part of that conversation was he said, this guy's a praying man. And I am because I think I just want to talk to God, as much as I can. I mean, I love mentally having conversations with him, because anyone can do that, that would line up with some forms of meditation. But I also talk out loud to him because I don't understand something. And I want to know, since he knows everything, I make that a common practice. So I do have my morning times with him. But to be honest, according to Thessalonians, the Bible says Pray without ceasing. So throughout My day, I'm having these many conversations with the Lord, I have one just before it came on. I'm like, Lord, you know what I need to say, you know what needs to be spoken. So just help us, help us in this conversation. And he does this so easily. People think he's the man upstairs. And this is a little verse that connects with what you mentioned. And he says to the fro word, or the aggressive type person, I show myself to that person that way to the meek, I show myself to them or humble that way. So however, God made us or however we have evolved or become, he'll show up like that. So for me, I mean, I've gone through some things like anyone else has, but as far as I'm concerned, having a conversation with God is as normal as breathing. So to ask him, out of my heart, out of my spirit out of my mind, is as normal as talking to my wife or even talking to you now.
 
Sean Morgan  07:57
And how does God reveal himself or communicate Back to you.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  08:03
Eight hours of discussion. Let's see if I could bring that in to about a minute and a half. He does so many things that reveal his nature, without even giving us big time hints that he's the one doing it. And a classic example is in the book
 
Sean Morgan  08:23
in life circumstances like that's the language.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  08:26
Yes, he speaks multiple languages, not just the earthly cultural languages, posted, I speak with the tongues of men that would be those earthly line languages, and angels. So angels have a communication language that they speak. So the Lord speaks all of those languages plus, he speaks through the language of circumstances. And one of the great Bible places that hides this little Jim is when in his racial thing going on you have Moses who was married to an Ethiopian woman according to the Scripture, so For all intents and purposes, she's black according the way we, you know, put things together. But this was a Jewish nation. So Miriam and Aaron had an issue with their brother, who had a deep walk with God. So God tells Moses, get them into a meeting. So he calls a meeting. So there's a here's your circumstance piece, which I've used as many times just to illustrate. God's really different man, he's different. So God is saying to Moses and saying to them, did it not bother you? But did it not come to you talking to Miriam and Aaron, that I talked to prophets in mysteries, but I talked to my servant, your brother, face to face. So how is it that you didn't connect those dots? So that tells me God talks in connected dots, because he was revealing something to them that they didn't pay attention to. So He then said, because you have sin in a nutshell. I'm going to break Basically handle the situation. Then if the law doesn't say anything, he departs. And Miriam, Miriam, the sister gets leprosy, that little window. He didn't even actually say, I'm going to deal with you. He just brought the question up. Didn't you guys pay attention to this? You didn't really you didn't pay attention, watch this. So when he departs she gets leprosy. Moses immediately starts praying, Lord, please have mercy on her. And then the Lord says, again, an unusual language structure would not even us some spill on her require that a seven day departure from the community wouldn't call for that. In other words, if she had been spit on she'd be separated. Why he used that methodology. I don't know. But the bottom line was, she has to be separate for seven days, then I will heal her of that leprosy, but it was the move away to the exact occurrence instead Sometimes in God's departure, if you can call it that, he's talking.
 
Sean Morgan  11:06
So, when you when you're praying to God, you're not hearing a voice back. You're not. Actually I don't want to put words in your mouth. I just asked you directly. Do you hear a voice? Do you use see images? And or do you just interpret the circumstances?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  11:25
You know, it's a little of all of that sometimes, because I get so many dreams that occur. And I mean, a lot. This is my latest dream book here that has from all these pages. These are different three of the morning for the morning, five in the morning, some even this morning. And sometimes when I'm asking, praying, Lord, what, what does that mean? I don't hear a thing. And I mean, nothing like it's just you and the birds and maybe the crickets outside. But most of the times when I hear The Spirit of God, it's with as the scripture calls it a small still voice, which doesn't sound like my voice, it it's, it's distinguishable by the texture of the sound and or the impression. So there are times when I get the impression, almost as if a set of eyes are looking where I should be looking. And that's developed over time to even know to pay attention because many times I know I haven't paid attention to the Lord speaking through a circumstance or speaking through what I'm looking at, don't realise why am I staring at this? Because my soul hasn't caught up yet to the speed if there's a speed of sound, and there's the speed of light, there's also the speed of thought. And so thought moves far faster in and out of us and we have between 10,000 and 80,000 of those thoughts every single day. So what have those thoughts which of them are God, I think we have to learn to accept He doesn't sound like us. And then there are times he sounds exactly like us. So there's a continuum of growth in there. And each person is going to experience a little bit different view of that.
 
Sean Morgan  13:13
And so I'm wondering if the way you know, it's God is by the nature of the communication or two sometimes the way God communicates you two, does it confuse you? Because it doesn't make sense rationally.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  13:31
You're really deep diving into the Pacific Ocean. Question. If I could use this, the first and the answer is yes, there are times when it doesn't make sense to my natural mind. The Scripture says, In the book of Ephesians, now on to him who is able to do exceedingly, and abundantly beyond all that we can ask or think beyond what we can ask or think about According to the power that's at work in us, so that tells me that there have to there has to be moments when God is speaking beyond what we can ask or think. Dreams are one way that he does that. Because they don't make sense in our logic. So at that point he has entered the involvement, the communication beyond what we can ask or think some circumstances don't look like what we think the circumstances should look like. And I'm going to give you a classic example I use the scripture concerning King Nebuchadnezzar who was a brutal king. He literally ripped women from the separate doing stand up abortions, if you will, I mean, the scripture reveals that this is his nature, his character as as history. And then you read towards the end of the narrative, that God called this man his sermon. Now that kind of does, it causes a head tilt until you recognise why God is doing that. And I think that that's exactly what's happening in the culture of the politics of today that people think it can't possibly be that this is God, these words are being said, these things are happening. Because this is how God does things. And some of those misunderstood places cause us to see God in a light he's never off. He's never wrong. We just have to learn the language of what he's doing and the reasons why he's doing what he's doing. To your point, you said, Yeah, you know, the nature of a few. And that's a learned thing.
 
Sean Morgan  15:42
Well, yeah, that gets a little confusing because people have freewill, and they can choose to do bad things, but God makes that part of his plan. So it might not necessarily be God's nature is sinful, but he uses sinful people's actions to ultimately be for The greater good.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  16:02
Oh, you hit it, you hit the nail on the head. Because when you go back to the book of Esther 10 chapters there, and not one mention of God, not one, not a single even when they were fasting, it didn't say they were fasting and praying. So you have the action of humans who were Jewish. In this case she was Esther was married to a Persian king. So you have the dogs here because they had Gentiles no matter how we slice it, they aren't Jews. And yet she seemed to not have any issue with that, as did her. Her relative Monica, in allowing that arrangement to occur doesn't make sense to anybody. But the guy named Haman, who was from King a gag who is the king of the Amalekites. The Lord had already told them, eliminate them, because when Israel was coming out of bondage, that country did not welcome them. So God's plan to Kingston All eliminate King, a gag and the Amalekites when that didn't happen. Now we see the reason why. So Haman is about to annihilate every Jew in the entire prophets, that's 127 provinces stretching from New York to Los Angeles, that would have messed with the bloodline of Jesus. So now Esther, and Mordecai who don't even mention God, reveal God, by their actions. And sometimes we think that the prayer is separate from the actions or the actions don't require prayer. They're proving that the actions indicate relationship because they said no words at all about prayer, nor any words even about God. And yet at the end, they end up saving the nation preserving the bloodline where we get the whole group of Oban and Naomi and Ruth and ultimately King David being born in that group and then Jesus being born, you know, several thousand years. Later, so it can be confusing. And to me, honestly, Shawn, that's what makes for me. I'm intrigued by what God's up to. Because he knows everything he knows everybody. So if Queen bashed, I had first not said no to her King, then there would not have been a search for a queen called Esther. I mean, it's too complicated. So the simplicity is, but it just helped me understand what I was supposed to know. And if I'm really feeling interesting that morning, I'll ask him to tell me the future. reveal it to me in a dream and then I'll look at this dream and we'll know what it means anymore than I know what Russian means. Close it up, go away, but I know its nature. And if I keep pressing, he'll reveal parts of it. And I'm still getting that now after a year and some change of things that are unusual and began my thing.
 
Sean Morgan  18:55
That's that's another interesting point, which is that you're saying that The more you're persistent, the more you're likely to get an answer or to get a response. So that also doesn't make sense to me right away either.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  19:15
That we have to just keep on asking, keep on asking. So he heard us the first time. Why do you think that's, that's required? I've been there, done that. Did it the other week. I mean, we were out of town. We had a live YouTube to do. We were up late trying to figure out why the upload didn't occur, which we did before we left. So this should have been all done. It's 130 in the morning, I now have to really pivot and make the decision that you're going to go live and although you pre recorded it, you're going to have to come up with what is required now. And it was not a plus we had pretty intense conversations about some things in the culture that are happening. So I'm like, I just, I just want to tell here. I mean, I knew not to ask the question was, so we get it together. The next morning we record and it goes off without a hitch a little pixelation going on. But in the end, I knew he was up to something because his nature, like any relationship is revealed with time spent. He is God and can just talk to us in our native tongues and be done. But when he talks beyond all that, we can ask a thing, that language is a promotion. It's really God saying to us, I believe you have now come to a higher place where I want to talk to you there because he's God for him to stoop is to lower himself. So God sits as a positioning faction, if you will, to say, I'm coming closer to you. But sometimes he wants us to come up to where he is in the dimension of who he is because if the earth is his footstool, then there's a whole lot of space between here And there. So there's a scripture would say, few there be that find this. And what is this an interest in their Creator, the creator in Romans one, his eternal power, His divine nature and his eternal destiny, the pink things he's put together are so clearly seen. He says, in the heavens that anybody who really wants him can find him. And I know that's frustrating. Because why don't you just tell me just make it plain? Because he thinks you're better than that. He thinks you're stronger than that he made you a little more than himself. So you're his son or his daughter. And if you just come a little closer, you'll find
 
Sean Morgan  21:44
and so it's not really about repetition, right? It's not really about repeating the demand the request, the you know, whatever it might be in prayer, it's really to to get closer to God. Nature. That's that's what's going to have results more than just vain repetition.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  22:09
Oh, absolutely. In fact, it's unfortunate that religion messes with the pathway to get to God through things like pain repetition, which looks like it's accelerated growth or maturity. In sometimes that messes with a person who says, Well, I don't want to pray out loud, or I don't want to pray in a crowd or because it's private. Yes, private absolutely is private, but so is other discourse that might be private to your group. And your ability to have a conversation with God in the midst of that is almost like Superman not having to find, if you will, the proverbial phone booth. He can change in front of everybody without anyone even knowing what's happening. So indeed, God wants the intimacy of prayer. And if I can just be honest with you, I grew up Baptist and I grew up praying a certain way. In a certain kind of methodology, well, my wife grew up Methodist, but she didn't go to church after a while. So when she received the Lord, she would pray these conversational prayers, that I would pray privately. But she prayed them every time like in public. And in my mind, I'm like, you're not in prayer, right? I didn't say that.
 
Sean Morgan  23:20
It's not formal enough for something non formal about
 
James Calvin Tibbs  23:23
Yeah, we need a little bit more structure in this deal. And now I'm trying to help people get out of their structure. It's a conversation and I don't need all the the vain repetitions or the as the scripture says, we think we might be heard because of our many words. We don't need that we need to get straight to the point where I am hurting. I'm gonna tell you one of the greatest prayers I prayed to help me through a an early ministry time where I was being formed for things that God would use me for later, was when I didn't know what the heck was happening. And I would go in the bathroom of this this place, and I would scream, nobody would hear me but I would You know, make the grimacing sounds, you got to help me forwards. Those four words I still utter today you
 
Sean Morgan  24:08
think God prefers basically a crying baby crying out to him rather than to turn to something else that even though that's not the most mature, necessarily the most mature way to get help from God, it's it's better to turn to God anyway. Any communication at all?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  24:32
Right, exactly, exactly. I mean, cool, but think about it, who has all the answers? Nobody. So he has given people all of us a chance to listen. So the question then becomes Who's crying out here? Or do we just flick on the television and find out what the latest is? Well,
 
Sean Morgan  24:49
we were a lot of people, myself included, might mess up is that we know how to cry out and complain to God, but we don't know how to receive. Do you have any tips on that?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  25:00
Receiving is one of the most important things in the Bible because the scripture indicates that we're supposed to after believing then receive, I think many times we're used to working in praying, fasting, whatever we're doing. But when it comes to the receiving side, it's almost like that's too easy to do. But when Jesus says in john chapter six, they asked him the question, what is the work that we should do that we might be approved of? He says, the only work that you should do is believe on the name of the only begotten Son of the Father, believing on him is to receive Him. And I do believe we have to really learn how to just sit back in the context of receiving from the Lord. We're not the ones doing it. We're letting him do it. Because any parent loves to give good gifts to their children. And if the children keep pushing it back, it's not that the Father is gonna stop, but we miss out because what he wants to give us we're not receiving
 
Sean Morgan  25:59
and so How do you demonstrate or? Or? Because it seems like this faith, the faith and the belief in Jesus is so integral. How do you show God that you believe in Him? How do you? This is just by talking to him that you're like, here it is. I'm putting putting myself out there. I'm taking a leap of faith. How do you think your faith is demonstrated in prayer? I think
 
James Calvin Tibbs  26:33
you already hit it. And it is that simple to put it out there. The word faith comes from a Greek word pistis, which means faith, trust, confidence, and belief. It means all of those words, we really are faith beings. We just may not have directed the towards God when we get inside of a car and drive on the other side of a little thin marker that says you stay over there and I stay over here. we're demonstrating faith, though it might not necessarily be ascribed to God, when we marry someone that you haven't known all of your life. Or when you get married, you wish you would weren't married, whatever that may be, for whomever is listening, the same faith that got that person to say, I think I want to live my life with you forever. The same faith is going to be required to make adjustments so that they can live in harmony together. So we use faith all the time children demonstrate it. Because one, when they're in the little bassinet, they can't walk, they can't get away. But once they can walk, they usually don't run away, because they're demonstrating the same dependence that we should as adults used to depend on the Lord. And when we just do that the formality is reduced to what I believe. And if I believe God can help me, then I'm going to get some help from God. If I don't, then I'm going to get some help from other sources and the Lord provides those as well.
 
Sean Morgan  28:01
So you probably see a lot of people with a lot of problems in your church in your community. And you think to yourself, wow, I just wish they could see how easy it would be to draw close to God and he would solve all their problems. So what are some of those ways to draw close to God that that might not be easy, but they're simple. See,
 
James Calvin Tibbs  28:27
this is another reason, right? Why I just love him. Right behind me as accounts, where I had an unusual conversation with my brother Justin yesterday. And he said something that made me say to him, I'm going to need that. I've been looking for that answer right there. Which is the question you just raised for a long time because I know very few people who really engage God as a regular way of living. I know many people who do what you mentioned, they're in trouble. Hello, Eddie here, okay, back to this. And what he said that helped me get it, which is I can't wait to call him and say, Look, what I told you is what is happening right now. And it's this he was in pain, strange things happening in our family. He started all these lives in California, had to have a something going on with his teeth and he had to go to the dentist and it was painful. And he really likes to describe that, which is great. So then after that, my says my daughter, our daughter in law, she had to have emergency surgery on her mouth. Then yours truly had to have emergency surgery on his mouth getting a tooth extracted, and then our daughter just had 14 removed now to me, that all mean something. But among the other things that definitely means is a lot of thinking and usually some pain. So when he brought that up, he said, whatever it was that he took, he said the pain is taken away, and now I'm better and he said that's probably how the people feel that you help you help them take the pain away. And that's When the rest of the Braves cave, the challenge is when we don't want, if you will want to go to the dentist anyway, we leave him alone until we are in pain. So if God is the pain reliever, once my pain is relieved, most folks go on in life. A few folks say, You know what? I'm just gonna sit here watch you remove some of the pain. Go ahead, go to work on that person. Is it okay? If I stand here? I still watch you remove their pain. It's those people that I do want. I pray that they would just see that there's a wonder in watching God removed pain beyond their own. And the more that can happen, the more they'll invite others who have had their pain relief says hang out with the pain reliever. Let's just hang out with the spiritual dentist and watch him do that. And then and then what gets amazing is and this is where some people get off the bus. He gives the scalpels to them. Yeah, drill.
 
Sean Morgan  30:57
We're actually participants in it. And he works through us.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  31:01
Yes, yes. And that's where it's so real. Now there is no motion or commotion internally about whether or not he's real. We may not understand everything about him. But we know not only is he real, but he actually wants to use us in what we have been designed for. And that's where purpose comes in.
 
Sean Morgan  31:25
So we talked about some of the ways that you pray out loud in your mind, kind of reading the language of your dreams and of your life. But can you tell me about the attitude that God responds to like fasting and repenting and, and humbling yourself getting on your knees? Crying, I don't know. What do you think? Do you use when you're in a pinch?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  31:58
I actually draw on On where I've been in him, I draw on the relationship that we already have. It's almost like going to an old friend or a boss that has been your boss for a while. And if you're going through a pinch, you know, you have a relationship with the boss to say, look, this is what this is where it is. I share that with our children as well. Like the youngest, we had 14 pool, it was like us the advantage of prayer, the advantage of relationship that you already have, and that brings a certain degree of confidence. And that's why usually, when it comes down to things that are a little uncomfortable, I'm in the room there, but I'm really inside, listening for what's the direction, because if I could hear from him first as a pattern, even in our conversation, while you're talking, I'm praying. I'm like, Lord, tell me what needs to be said here. You know what needs to be said it won't move, but my mind is gone. So I'm listening to you to lock in on what you're asking. And I'm asking him, help me to understand what what helped me to say, and respond the way that you want me to respond. And I think it's that, again hanging out with the pain reliever, noticing how he is. So if, for example, in Moses case, he had always gone to his knees to pray drop to his face, but when it gets to the Red Sea, talk about a pinch. He does the same thing he had already done, always done. And suddenly God says, Get up. What? I've always done this, don't you see these? The cloud the cloud is not your cloud is the cloud of the army from is from each if they come together, and there's water over here, we can't swim. And what are you going to do here? And God tells him suddenly changes the rooms. don't pray, get up. That's the subtleties of what prayer produces, it produces an intimacy because Prayer does that both with God whom we pray to, and with the persons we're praying for. So it's difficult to find a foe that I pray about, and pray for. So in the context of perhaps it's time to get up and start doing. Perhaps it's time as the widow woman was told, go and get all the vessels borrow not a few. And then from there, those vessels were filled. Or if it's Jesus, here you go, telling a guy, a blind man, to go somewhere, forget where he said, the fact that he's even telling a blind man to go to a place and watch the spit, spit, spit in a man's eyes. You're already breaking rules again, he and Jesus. That's how he does but he will give us a chance to just be if you will normal, but when he's ready to elevate or promote us to the next grade. Even if we don't think we've checked off all the right boxes, he may call us into The action of something that we're not used to I get up from praying, start doing, pray in the Spirit, this time be filled with the Spirit, even, oh my god. Now this mess that's messing with my religious background. Well, I said that it's available, because I've revealed it in the book of Acts. So he can really be wild. Honestly, he can be his wife, he's Wilding wilder than we are. But when we let ourselves go, and be who he created us to be, then the fullness of that will trigger the response of us being able to trust him when he's asking us to do something we've never done before.
 
Sean Morgan  35:39
And when you go to God as kind of like the boss or the father or the person of authority that you trust and you've relied on in the past, do you have a legal approach where you're like, now, you promised this in this book? And I'm I'm asking you to make good on your part. As you did this before, for me in my life, I remember it. I'm calling on this memory so that you can do the same thing for me again. Do you bring these things up? What are the conversations like?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  36:13
This? Great? That's a great question. And it is that sometimes there is a legal right or a precedent that has been put in place that belongs to the believer. Now, I think that takes us to a little deeper place. Because some people are just praying, I sure hope he just hears me. But the scripture says this is the confidence that we have in him that if we ask anything, according to His will, he hears us. And if we know that he hears us, then we have the petition. petition is a very interesting word that we ask of him. The petition is literally that it's just like a court petitioning someone to come. So when we petition the Lord on behalf of His righteousness, or as the woman did, when she said to the to the wicked judge, I'm petitioning need you to help me with this situation and the judge said, I don't feel God. And I really don't care about you. But because you're bothering me,
 
Sean Morgan  37:10
that's the persistence thing we talked about.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  37:13
So we got the persistence rule that's waiting. We have the petition rule that's waiting. We have the pleasing rule that's waiting. We have the compassion rule. So he's so easily to be gotten to. It's just that we have learned to come inward, I think more than perhaps previous generations. And it's like, I can do it. I can do it. I don't need you for this. And if we didn't have a good relationship with someone who allegedly represented God, then God is a suspect, like the person is a suspect. And yet he could still gives us his air to breathe. He doesn't take the water out of the planet. He's still a very present help in the time of trouble. And so when we simply call on him, he answers because he made us And he wants to have relationship with us
 
Sean Morgan  38:03
I think that's a perfect way to wrap up because it just fills me with a sense of peace and and trust that I don't need to overthink this I don't need to have some kind of master plan it's like just come to him just just try just speak your own language don't have to try to figure out God just be yourself. Just Just go go to your father and and speak your mind and your heart and just let it all go and he'll teach you in the process.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  38:39
Yeah, yeah.
 
Sean Morgan  38:41
Well, thank you so much. Pastor Tibbs where can people go to learn more about your church and your your books and your get involved in your community?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  38:54
Well, they can go to kt church.org. And on the Events tab, they can Click and see all of the places where we show up on zoom, as well as on the YouTube broadcasts that we do at Katie church global. And they're on YouTube is, you know, some 50 videos on different subjects, including what has happened with a pandemic and such. And they will have a link available where they can go and get the book. And I really encourage everyone to pray, this is a critical time. And we need to let the Lord know what we think. So that he can then get involved. And we put those together I think will be will be fine.
 
Sean Morgan  39:37
Thank you, Pastor, I'm going to sign up for one of these zoom things. I want to get praying with your church community and connect with all the people that you're involved with, because I'm really resonating with with you and your teaching. And so thank you so
 
James Calvin Tibbs  39:54
much. Thank you. Glad to be here.
 
Sean Morgan  39:59
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