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Sean Morgan  00:00
I'm Sean Morgan and I'm asking the hard questions about alternative topics like Q anon and Coronavirus. Get the free ebook at Q and on FAQ. com I want to talk to you about why it's so awesome to join Patreon and how you can support my independent journalism and for you to get research and emotional support and coaching from me. Now, when you start your great awakening process, it can be a lonely journey, you feel like you have to keep your new discoveries to yourself because of social shaming for thinking differently. Now you can struggle to find the right sources and you can spend hours just wasting your time by becoming a patron you not only help support me and independent journalists to help dismantle the lamestream media, but you get private access to me, someone who has already been down the road and can point you in the right direction. Now depending on the tier, you can private message me with questions or you can have live sessions with me to discuss your current challenges not just by becoming a researcher. You have joined a global movement of others who want to know the truth. It's time for you to hook into that community and train yourself as a digital soldier for truth. Now becoming a patron, you will get access to that private chat community where all opinions are welcome in an inclusive and supportive environment. You can chat with other patrons that are on the same journey as you and they will also give you emotional and research support. So go to patreon.com slash q anon FAQ to join our private community right now. Hello, I am here with Pastor Tim's pastor. Welcome to the show. Jason Glad to be here. I was just talking to you before the recording about how to make an impact. I think that there are people on the left and the right and in the world of politics. And they both feel kind of impotence or unpowered. And not able to make the impact that they want to make. They have protesters who are all Showing up and just kind of doing chance and it's not really having much of an impact. And then you have maybe the people on the right who they don't want to wear masks and they complain, but they still have to wear them. And so they're not able to make an impact. And you at your church have specific things that you do to try to have a political impact through prayer. And you also have mentoring and other things. So can you tell me, how do you how do you balance this in your life of doing the actions that you believe you're like planning, you're using your rational mind to try to make an impact and at the same time, you have to let go and let God be in charge. So how does that work for you?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  02:46
That's a big question right there. And for me, it works in a lot of pouring and being poured into the emptying out of a former idea is the only way that a new idea Come in. And Jesus talks about that in john chapter 17. And in the practical sense of it, the world keeps changing. If people who are assigned to the planet, ie Christians don't change even ahead of the world, but at the speed of God's thought, at the speed of his light, if we don't change, then we're not gonna be able to impact that. So for me, it's a lot of empty, and it's a lot of pouring. So functionally, what that means is, indeed, as you as you said, we pray. Because the scriptures has mentioned always pray and not faint, which would indicate if we don't pray, no wonder we faint. So do you think that means don't give up? What do you think? How would you translate that? I think it is both. And I never really thought about it until I just said it just then I think the losing of heart occurs when the lack of prayer occurs. Because when a conversation like we talked about the last time we were together on prayer, it's a conversation. It's a language, and if I'm not having a language or a comment With the one who can fix it, then I'm only having conversations with people who add to it or detract from it. That's enough to make you want to thank.
 
Sean Morgan  04:09
And how about when people try to overcome, let's say, a sin in their life? That's repetitive, a repetitive pattern of sin. Like, for example, they're alcoholics with an addiction, and they use their own will, and they try to stop but they can't. And then there's Alcoholics Anonymous, where you actually say to God, I can't do this on my own, I need you to do it. And how does that work? Because I've noticed that in my own life, when I tried to do something with my own will, it doesn't work. And then when I kind of say, hey, Holy Spirit, help me out here, then it's done, and it's overcome and you don't get the credit. You don't get the credit for overcoming it yourself.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  04:51
That's the problem. Because we get the two year old I can do it. syndrome where being a big girl or Big Boy is tantamount with what can you do on your own. And when we carry that into adulthood, trying to do things on our own, it's really the difference between the study that I'm in right now, which deals with basically what's called God has ordained that the absolute rationale of a person be found in an individual's intelligence. In other words, reasoning with our intelligence is something God has given us. And it's a wonderful thing. It's a powerful thing. The second level of that is something called enlightenment or enriched enlightenment. Some people have different names for it. But the bottom line is, is that at this point, he takes the intelligence that we have through the insights that we can deduce through reasoning, and he multiplies it through the Holy Spirit that gives us the capacity well beyond what we can ask or think. It's so impressed inside of the person's imagination or in their intellect. But now they are informed without human reasoning. So to get to this place, we have to be alright with losing the glory associated with all of this wonderful knowledge that we have. And that, again is the emptying, and then the reporting in, and it's a tough dancing act, because we get paid for what we know we get credit for what we know, we don't know and have to depend. That's where it gets a little dicey. But that's where we grow the most.
 
Sean Morgan  06:31
What does that look like in practical terms like he you try to make these plans in life like my wife and I are looking at maybe building a house, you know, and trying to figure out what what things need to occur to build the house, we have to save the money we have to call the contractor we have to do all these things. And, and yet, we can't really get this done of our own will. We think we can but then a million things could go wrong to stop this plan. And there's a million things that could go right, that are beyond our imagination that would make things fall in line faster or better than we could imagine. So I guess this is where prayer comes in. But how would How would you pray in this type of situation?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  07:19
Well, that balancing act that you talked about, you know, I said one day, back in the day, I was going to write a book about it, I should have a need to, which is telling God what to do. And from my perspective, Connie a prayer. So I tell him what to do, because I would make my request No. And then for me, I just ran out and started doing it like, I'm on the third lap and I'm about to finish my mile and I realised there's nobody behind me. There's no support, there's no backing. So what I've learned in this process is to literally do everything that I can. The research, the declarations, the asking the verification, the agreement, Especially between husband and wife on anything because if two or three touch or agree on anything as having tested, the scripture says he agrees with us because we agree on Earth. So we've done all of that. Generally, we're ready to go into the promised land. This is where that little pouring and emptying process comes in, where I literally say, Now, Lord, I've done everything. If you don't want this to happen, then I submit this to you. That's the breaking or the amalgamating of God's Will into our will. Versus these actions all indicate I'm on board, I'm ready to go, let's go. But I submit this to you. Most people would not do any of this and just say, Well, whatever you want to do, it'd be that we'll Calvinism which says if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, it doesn't and it must have not been his will if it didn't. And that's not how God how God works. He works with us. In fact, his name is with emanuelle God, first name with middle name, us. Last name.
 
Sean Morgan  09:08
So what about fasting? Does that play into the formula for you and your life? It seems like you're trying to make prayer and connection, a part of the whole process from the beginning to the end. But do you fast or get kind of intense at the beginning, before you set the first foot? Or do you do it at the end when you're kind of waiting for the final confirmation? Or do you have any kind of process? That's
 
James Calvin Tibbs  09:38
a great question. It really, really is. The thing is, since God really knows us better than we know ourselves, we can we can pretend that we're sacrificing to him something that he wants, which sometimes it's true, but there are times when we're like, okay, Lord, if you don't want this to happen. I just won't do anything. And so in between these games that we play, because we have fights with God, we lose them. But we fight nonetheless. I mean, we wrestle, you know, back in the day, headlock and the simplex. We really don't when Jacob find that out when he wrestled with the angel, the angel, let him wrestle with him, and God lets us wrestle with him. I think when we get to the real substance of what we want, like Jesus wanted to live, I mean, the reason that he came was to die so that we might have life and living was a wonderful thing since he had life. He is the giver of life, and now he has to give up his life. And you find that same context of, I want to, what do you want? I want, what do you want, I want, I'm here. I give this to you, when we're really at that point where we're willing to get about all that we've worked for, or the plan that we saw developed, or whatever it may be, it's at that point that God gets a greater portion of our heart. And you find that, especially in America, and perhaps in other parts of the world where you can just pay for it. And they already if it's, if it's material, and if it's not material, you can click on it. And there it is. But when you're talking about the relationship with God, the reason why, as you indicated, prayer is so vital, because it's a conversation, and conversations through prayer, produce intimacy, and the intimacy with the person with whom you're praying for or with whom you're praying or for whom you're praying. You can't really separate from them easily. If you keep talking to them about them and about you and about us. It's very difficult to break away from that. Now, if it's religious, and I'm just checking boxes here, then I may as well have not free I may as well just talk to myself or others and go about the business and let God into the The story there. But I honestly think that that prayer component, which softens our heart to say, you know what, no, I really, I want to live for you. And that does mean living practically in the earth. And it means a lot of sacrificing I give that to you. And when we do that, he normally gives it back better to us than we could have ever thought.
 
Sean Morgan  12:21
It is very difficult to truly be selfless, usually, like the way I'm asking these questions. I'm like, Well, what can we do to get what we really want from God? When should we fast at the beginning or the end? You know, and there are certain actions we can do that are selfless, like when you pray for another person, you know, it's, it's maybe the closest we can get. Do you believe that we should kind of go through the emotion of some of these things that are not easy or intuitive or natural for us to do to spend our time focusing Hang on others? You know? I'm just curious, because you probably pray for other people a lot. Would you consider yourself? Someone who's a big intercessor? Do you know people who are like that? What do you think that that's all about as far as should you force yourself to do it? Because that will build your character?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  13:23
Yeah, I get where you are. And I didn't answer your question about fasting. So I combined them fasting as a way to get to the answer that you're referencing. It's a fast way because the soul wants what the soul wants. And every one of us has, we are a spirit, we have a soul. And thessalonian says, We live inside of this body. So just like the world is three parts water, we are two parts spirit and spirit is often tantamount to water. So to be spiritual is really easy. I think the hard part is to recognise it in the natural, physical body without brain without thinking. I think we have a hard time Time recognising You are a human having you're not a human having a spiritual experience, we are spirits having a human experience. So if we can cross that bridge, from a fundamental standpoint, then it becomes a matter of what are the tools that are available for us to get things done in the natural with a spiritual connection to the Father. And I think again, those components of how to get that they will run us through the idea of the way that seems right to us. The Bible says that that way, can end in destruction. So that means if I have a spiritual connection in a physical body, it's reasonable that says he created both. I oughta find out what he thinks, what he wants, and perhaps even the way that he wants it. But the reality is, there is a glory in doing it myself, because after all, I'm a self made. Fill in the blanks. That brings a certain amount of attention that takes the attention away from God brings the temporary attention to us. And sometimes we can get addicted to that attention as if it's worth it. And it seems worth it because there's a way that seems right. But the destruction in the end should train us in this reality. Give God what belongs to him, he'll definitely give you what belongs to you.
 
Sean Morgan  15:29
So, I guess what I was trying to get at is that because we kind of have a natural, selfish nature depriving ourselves of food or praying for other people doesn't really come naturally to us, right? But maybe once we start doing it, we realise that it's just feeds our soul feeds our spirits it it is more fulfilling actually then self gratification so Do you have a routine in your life where you pray for other people? Is that a muscle that you kind of have to exercise and it grows? You know, same thing with fasting. I'm curious about,
 
James Calvin Tibbs  16:14
you know, I really, I kind of find myself doing what the scripture says and Thessalonians and not to check the box, but it says Pray without ceasing. And the image of that would be in a closet somewhere or just on your knees. But the practical part of that is a person comes to mind. And you think about whatever you thinking about metacognition, and that process about thinking should lead to, from my perspective, and from what I do is I just pray for the Lord bless the Lord help them. In fact, I've started now making a bit more of a conscious effort when they come to mind like that. Not just praying, but getting them on the phone. I'm just
 
Sean Morgan  16:53
checking on you when they come to your mind. It's like they were given to you to do something about
 
James Calvin Tibbs  16:59
yes Because thoughts are things, they're invisible things, but they are really things and again back to us all being spiritual beings having a human experience. The question becomes, how often do we get God involved? To your point, by practice, by habit by Lister saw an obligation? Or how often do we do that? do that by simple default. He made me so I need to ask him I need to ask my daddy, daddy, what's going on here? And honestly, religion makes the practice laborious, it makes the practice habit, something that is punitive if you don't do it, and then you feel badly about doing it. And so then when you do it from a normal spiritual outflow, and he doesn't seem to answer, then we go back to the habit of practising every now and then when in reality as his children, we're going to always be his children, whether we are illegitimate or legitimate and the difference there is of course, whether a person receives Him as their father or not. So the ones who do receive Him as their father, we have the scripture says an advocate before the Father, that's a judicial term, which means we have a lawyer, and the daddy is our judge. You don't lose cases that don't lose cases. But we got to believe that that's the case. And therefore with confidence, go to the Father in the name of our judge or advocate and say, This is what I desire to have. And it's so normal. It's just like breathing it really is.
 
Sean Morgan  18:37
And whether you're a selfish person or spiritual person, either way, you want to have a high impact you want to do big things want greatness. And so there's probably a tension there. Between Are you trying to get impact or greatness for yourself or you trying to do it for your family, your country for the greatest Good. So what I've noticed I have a few close friends who are very religious, very spiritual. They're just good simple people that I can trust with everything. And yet they're poor. They're poor people, they're financially not abundant. And I'm always like, Why Why are the good people poor? Well, you know, and then you have the whole prosperity gospel and then people are like focusing 99% on that and then missing the good stuff. So what do you say about people who What do you say about this question this question of power and greatness and, and abundance. Is this a part of your conversation with because you have your own mission with your church and everything and you want to expand your territory and and increase your impact? So So what's that conversation like to avoid the selfish route?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  20:07
You know, it's it's a real conversation that we have my wife and I have been married for 36 years and, and together known each other for 37. And when we were 22 years old, just got married and I thought was okay. I asked her a question that I wanted to get in terms of what I wanted to answer. So I was asking to get to something. What do you want to do? What put us down the road? Money is an issue. I was a young lieutenant. So money was an issue, but money is an issue. What are we doing in life? And she said what she said, which was similar to what I was thinking, and I wanted to say, which is us ultimately work together with our hands, doing something, being financially independent in the process, and making God happy, in that we have measured or merged the two things doing something together and helping people. I had no idea none 00 Not at any language, that this would lead to me being a pastor? Not at all. Not at all. So the money part was still there. Because to be honest with you, my concern about the money was on church people going to do that. Now I'm a lieutenant, so I'm not at that stage. But it wasn't until I got out and began to work in ministry that I was thinking, I need something else. I need real estate, stocks and bond, I need something in case they don't like. And they stop them. And I'm stuck. So to be honest with you, Sean, I went through. I went through a lot in my mind because the internet was beginning to become a little bit more accessible in terms of ease of use today, there's an app for that, but then there wasn't an app for that there was almost an IT degree for that amount was in communications and not this. So I struggled to get the other thing going along with this ministry thing which For me, was an assistant pastor at a church. So it was easy to just get paid, because I was there and the pastor was doing the tithes and offerings and people were giving, and I was lovable, and loving, and all those wonderful things. But I still honestly had an issue in my heart that God knew about that I wasn't talking about, as they say, in a few good men and put in places where you have these parties. And those parties are in these places. I knew in my heart, I don't want to be stuck with the tide and the offering as a part of how I live. I just don't fast forward to four and five, four years ago, when I had a stroke. And at that point, I'm like, please get the people to tie the Lord I love your system is great. It's the greatest thing ever heard out. tie this awesome, Lord. Help. Well, some did. Some didn't. Some less And now I'm stuck with the same dilemma. How are you going to do it? What are you going to do? So I went off again, very slowly, this time a lot more protracted, protracted, but in the end, still, the concept of money was there. Fast forward to today, maybe four years later. It is incredible what happens when what God made you for is aligned with what you want to be made for. It's incredible how he speaks through the language of proof. When there was no proof, it would appear prior to the proof showing up. So I have found, finally, that when a person finds their purpose, and there's a whole long thing on that, but for the sake of when they find their purpose, they find their provision. If that's in the ministry, if it's being an artist, stop calling yourself a starving artist or your words will catch up. With your life and your life, we'll catch up with your words instead, call it what it is. And I say this to our oldest daughter, who's an artist, I am a, I forget what I said something like, I have an outstanding replica of God's intention for my life. That way when you're thinking you're not looked upon as blonde, or did B, or whatever, because the world doesn't understand your many different versions of manifestation as it relates to thought, you know, the blonde idea of your blonde you, you kind of crazy in terms of your thinking or if you didn't see, it doesn't matter. The culture. I guess at that point, it's because they don't understand you. Well, God did not create the Garden of Eden in Rome. We created roles to manage his wildness. And then we think everybody is supposed to be managed the same way as if everyone is an administrator. Everyone is not so I'm saying all of that to say I had to get to a place where I finally accepted. This is how you made me this is what I am Made for. And then I have watched the Lord expand. I'm just talking about even monetarily making sure that we're covered that we're taking care of. And then he's still getting moved for more. And it's tripping me up, because I don't know if, if it was me coming to this Advent, and now the blessing is flowing in this way. Or if I finally matured and gave up, I think it's a combination of both. And I'm sufficiently given up at this point, I can tell you that.
 
Sean Morgan  25:30
Yeah, there's a lot in that, though, of what you said about how you still have to give up your own will how you have to find your purpose and and align that with with God's purpose. And I know that you focus and train a lot on purpose. So maybe we could touch on that briefly. How do people find their their talent and align that with God's purpose and find what God's purposes in their life
 
James Calvin Tibbs  26:00
Well, you're correct. One way to do it is look at yourself in the mirror when you don't have any clothes on. That's an easy way. Your head, your eyes, your nose, your mouth, your ears, those are five hints as to what our purpose is. Then you move down to the hands, that's number six, you move to the sexual organ, that's number seven, you move to the feet, that's number eight. So when we look in the mirror, and don't judge yourself, because you're not strong enough, or you're overweight, or whatever, those things are not the point and the judge. The idea behind judging is looking at how your body was created male and female, basic root components of a male is that he is a sower. He has seed. The basic root element of a woman is that she has a womb to receive seed. That doesn't mean that a woman can't plant and a man can't nurture but it means primarily I am getting ideas That are supposed to be planted in the world, a woman is supposed to be getting ideas as well, whether it be from her husband or from God. She's supposed to nurture and give birth to those ideas. From a very fundamental standpoint, we so what we want to grow, and we nurture what we expect women to give birth to. So now how does that help me with my purpose, I can at least know that I don't need to be sewing, taking my feet to a place where my gifting is not developed. I don't need to take my body to a place where I have no interest in the process of engagement, whatever that may be, because I'm thinking that's a part of the anatomical clues. So to make it keep it kind of in the same vein, what I do not like despise or even hate is an indication that my seed is designed to grow in a place to solve that or if you're a Woman, my womb, my life is designed to nurture what will come forth to solve what I don't like, what I despise, or what I hate. Now, my gift has made room for me, because I am a gift to someone needing what I have to offer. everyone on the planet shares that same purpose or gifting. They are the package, they contain within them the solutions to the situation they're being introduced. And if they don't like it won't last long, because you are the seed bearer, the birth provider to bring solution to those things that you don't particularly care for.
 
Sean Morgan  28:43
I actually never heard that before to focus on the problems that you can solve. But, you know, it makes sense to me. There's a demand obviously, if there's a problem, there's a demand and if you care about the solution Then you're going to have passion energy to solve it. What about the people who have this fear of, okay? Like, for example, I live in a city part of the Year in Brazil where there's an there's a river that is polluted with sewage and all kinds of problems. And I'm feel passionate about I want to do something to solve that problem. But I feel so incapable. I've tried to join organisations, I've tried to write letters and things, but there's so many obstacles in the way. And I can imagine there are a lot of people who are considering like for their career for their way to be have provisioned and everything. I want to solve this problem. But you know, that problem solving doesn't pay the bills like I want to solve poverty, or I want to solve some kind of problem but I I also want to be financially abundant and I feel like I have to have a day job to get the money to do that. Is that part of your process when you work with people about purpose to overcome those obstacles in their mind?
 
James Calvin Tibbs  30:11
Yeah, it is. I just talked to a person the other day who is in a particular field in case he looks at this and then you're talking about me, but anyway, he's in this area that he hates, he flat out hates. In fact, he hates it so much it put him in the hospital. And as we were talking, he was just in tears. You know, I don't know what he wants because I asked the question, what does God want you a praying man? What does God well know what he wants? I'm like, Okay, what do you hate? in about three seconds. He reeled off a bunch of stuff. That was so clear, but he couldn't answer what God wanted, but he could answer what he hated. Were so again, clued in these eight areas of our body. Tell us the truth when we finished that. My question to him was, how many applications have you put in, in this area? Zero. But you hate what you're doing. And you're doing that because you're just getting money for it. Right? But your body's telling you that's not enough, right? He's like, yeah, like when you start looking in the place where you're gifting makes room, it will pay you it will fund you, because the solution that you provide, not just to them, but to God. And he will Oh, no, man any. So when you get into that position, call me because you will get paid now, even if you start on volunteering, and that volunteering leads to the position. It's the trust in God with his design potential, which goes back to what I said before I have to trust that I was made this way to do what I do. For me. It's speaking, it's singing, it's teaching, and it is writing. That's what I do. I was told this in 12th grade. I didn't accept it because the teacher to me was a nerd or a dork and I didn't want to darksword being my foetus You know, so I drop that stuff to the side. And lo and behold, I'm back to writing again. I mean, this is what I'm designed for, this is what I'm going to give an account for. So when it comes down to that question of how do I fix it, I was literally thinking about your gift making room for you. I don't know the depths of Shawn, but I noticed much, you're very sincere. You're very focused. Number two, you're very much a research. This is what you do. You're also very quietly confrontational. That's okay. So if I hit those things, right. How do you fix any problem that you have directed towards? Well, for you? He gave you a platform? Yeah, this platform is that place that the awareness campaign goes out, perhaps interviews with those who are looking for a place to put their similar objections to a poverty situation. solutions but bureaucracy calls it back. But by the time they keep hearing from a person with a platform, sooner or later is going to give way Why? Because you are the solution to that problem that you see. And there are probably more people who make up a tribe, who when these efforts are synergized that we don't even know are being synergized until everyone does their function, then the Lord shows up is game over for the ones who oppress those who are in that situation?
 
Sean Morgan  33:35
Thank you for your words on that. I think that I'm like you I like to do I have gifts in more than one area. So it can get a little bit confusing, like, Am I supposed to be writing all the time? Or am I supposed to be singing all the time? You know, and there's only so many hours in the day and so many years in your life. And so how do you make space and time For all the different things that you want to do and need to do in your life,
 
James Calvin Tibbs  34:06
I hope a good example of it, to be honest with you Just in the last few weeks, I've come to the new term because I just finished a PhD, which was a lot of work. I'm so thankful. It's great. That was a lot of work. And so I find myself writing, thinking about you don't have a paper to turn it off. So I'm still in the throes of what was but what I learned recently to do, Dr. James O. Davis, who is wonderful man who travels the globe, literally helping people he has been the equivalent of going to the moon and back, I think 14 times. And I've had the privilege of travelling with him on three or four occasions internationally. But the point is, he came here to our house or the other house where we were living at the time and he said, always put the big rocks in first. He then took out something that my wife had and said I let's admit We're gonna fill this with saying, if you put the sand in first, there is no room for the big rocks. All those little bitty details represent the same pebbles, a little bit more details, rocks, a little bit more details. Let's put the big rocks in and get them out of the way. Now notice how much space is made for the smaller pebbles. And notice how much space is made for all of the sand. That's what I've begun to do to take myself off the hook. Just because of growing the church specifically growing the people who make up the church on this online platform six days out of the week, the preparation to get to all of that that has to occur, the books that are inside of me that have to be written or transcribed and edited, the podcasts that have to be uploaded from content from years gone by, I mean, I have come up with this little grid. And I've changed it nine times because that's not the problem. anymore. Now this is the priority. So each day I start with Lord help me put the big rocks in first. And then the next rocks because as a pastor, as you know, I mean, it could be a call, at any given point about any given given thing which has occurred, we've had about five of our members who that I know personally have contracted COVID that means talking with him, that means praying with him, that means connecting them on the prayer call. That means checking with him personally or through other people later on. And when those things are happening, those are the big rocks. Now, I may have had some other big rocks like I'm gonna finish this big article for LinkedIn, but not today because they are the big rock. So it's a fluid situation and I used to say this and I don't want to get in trouble with the Lord. I used to say I think it's okay to say being a real submitted person to God as a as a Christian we'll just call it not on name in name only Christian but a Christian who up son or daughter of God, okay? can get on your nerves, it can get on your nerves from the vantage point that
 
Sean Morgan  37:09
you want to do all the stuff you want to do right away,
 
James Calvin Tibbs  37:12
because God has stuff. And this
 
Sean Morgan  37:15
will take care of your son and you got to take care of your wife and you got to take care of your your parishioners. And
 
James Calvin Tibbs  37:21
exactly. And he may want you to take care of something that you don't necessarily think is that important. But for him, it's a big rock. And to submit to that, with a good attitude. It grows you spiritually it grows you in maturity, because if I keep getting my way with what I think is important, I just fell into the category. There is a way that seems to a man. That's what happens when people only look for money, and they make money the finish line and they get it and there's still not happy, or as we found out recently with the opioid crisis in America. Wanna crisis and the oxy cold in crisis? My wife was sharing this with me about things on on Netflix concerning that and we would recently at the Braves stadium called the battery. Yesterday at opening day they were in New York, but the big screen was showing and all kinds of people walking around. And I just thought to myself, what would God really want? If there were no sand in the garden? And we were still in the year 2020? Would this be the same? The same that we're watching people with cut off jeans, exposed body parts, selfies, as if it were a selfie movie? everywhere you turn? Is this what he would want? Well, of course the answer is no in some regards, but he would probably be alright with that restaurant. But in the meantime, he's still letting everybody live the way we want to live the way we think is right and he doesn't cut off the air supply. He doesn't cut off the camera with the the photo in mid blink He just lets us do it. So it made me resolve to this fact the millennial reign of Christ is going to reveal how Jesus would do between now and then we need to consult him about how he wants to do it now.
 
Sean Morgan  39:17
And that brings us right back to prayer, doesn't it? We did a whole other episode last time about spiritual communication, how it works and how prayer works. So people can check that out and people can even join your church and and get on the prayer line. People can call in right to do prayers with your church.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  39:37
Yes, they can every Monday night at seven o'clock at Katie church.org. Click on the Events tab. When it drops down, click on the prayer tab which is Mondays and all the zoom information is right there.
 
Sean Morgan  39:50
So people can just get in there and see how you guys do it and people will pray for them and they can see see how it works for themselves.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  40:00
Yeah, because we think prayer, again is as normal as breathing. And although all of us come from different backgrounds, and some come from the six hour a night prayer group, and some come from, you know, you pray 10 minutes as you go. And I think that Pray without ceasing is going to require both the individual time with God where perhaps you are stagnant or stationary. But I know some tremendous, wonderful pastors, Tommy Barnett, is one of those pastors who has done such great work. And his father said, at Tommy's, that Father, I'm sorry, who said, I'm not that guy who can pray for now. But I'm that guy who can work in what I believe God's telling me to do for an hour. I may pray for five minutes. And so that's the real but in Christianity, sometimes we want people in the in either camp, but I think we're supposed to be in every camp that fits our design potential. And when we're in that, like this one Indian pastor, I know I mean, he's been On the print for 14 hours in a day, 14 hours, and, you know, I pray for extended times before, but everybody can't, everybody won't. And I think we got a, we just a wee wee slice out at that one little hour. And we break it out where we pray for the specific needs at seven o'clock. And then a little bit after that. We pray for the president, we pray for the nation, we pray for Israel. And then after that we pray for the areas within our church. And all in between. There are wonderful testimonies of people who have gotten healed of COVID. And, you know, without a vaccine and people who have recovered from this situation financially or that situation. So, you know, the Lord is doing a lot of wonderful things because he does listen to what we say when we pray.
 
Sean Morgan  41:51
It's really just a matter of getting in there and trying it and seeing, see and evolves, it'll evolve naturally as you learn and you grow God.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  42:01
Yeah, it's a relationship. You know, you said that before. And that is so true. And I believe that's a part of why we're doing this. Because if you're a Lutheran, this is that expectation as Baptists, and so forth, as if the name implies, the revelation we have. And it's okay. If you are if God is revealing Himself to you as quiet or bodacious or very structured, it's fine. That's the four year there's a big mansion of God, way back beyond the entry point where we come into if you will be awareness of him and church is not the only place we get awareness either. Wherever awareness occurs, it's the four year it might not it might just be the first step inside of the four year, there's a kitchen where he cooks things up your life, the lives of other people, how you interact in the ingredients that are blended together. So that everyone is lost in something bigger than themselves. There's the living room where we get to watch him work over things that he's done hearing testimonies, there's the back patio, where we get to look outside and see that the world is our classroom, and not just our little portion of it, and that the world is waiting for those who are in God's house, to come out and literally give an account for what purpose is all about what you're here for what you're here for, and not tell them but help a lot open their eyes to see it is more than just this or that or the other. By the time that kind of a life has been lived. Then the grave is left empty, except for our bodies. The ideas would have been extracted, the plans would have been extracted, the gifts would have all been extracted, but unfortunately, most graveyards worldwide are filled with the very solutions that today's people are looking for, because they never leave their potential, they stayed in the four year, and some stayed on the outside. And I just don't want to be in that number. And I want to help as many people as I can to get where they belong, and be the platform that they were intended to be so that people can come and benefit from the gift that they innately are
 
Sean Morgan  44:20
to speak about that, that metaphor of, of the house, you know, and you go in and you learn and you experience and then you can come out and you can testify to that. It reminds me of something I just heard from Derek Prince talking about the Holy Spirit that you're in filled, and then the overflow or the outflow is can be the speaking in tongues. And so I just thought I'd mentioned that that that's, that's kind of the end result is that you first you get filled up with spirit and then eventually there's this overflow at this hour. flow, and it's a testimony. And it's a seal of the of the Spirit. So I think people want that and thirst for it and want to experience it. But they have to go into the four year first and then take one step at a time until they're able to, to speak about it and tell their story.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  45:22
Yeah, you you hit the nail on the head, I think about the Apostle Paul, I love their prints. His material is timeless, as he has now gone on to be with the Lord. The apostle Paul was one of those guys who went into the wrong for you. And he was highly trained, nothing wrong with the training, highly taught. Not much wrong with the teaching, except that the teaching didn't yet translate, as you said to life. And the reason it hadn't is because he thought that the old activity from the tabernacle of Moses was still the most important part. So Jesus knocks him off of his road, the road he's on says why you personally persecuting me, you're kicking against the goal. Now this is really weird about that for your peace. Here's a guy that was clearly assigned by the Sanhedrin. And by those who were in charge, to go out with papers to say, You're practising the wrong religion, and you including too much of our ancestry, so we're going to arrest you or in some cases he had been killed. Now it's all new soon to be Paul is on his way back to his house, who had just heard from God, just like Paul did what Saul did. Only Anand is head, Lord, isn't this the one that kills people? He persecutes the brother of the Lord said, I know. But he has many things that he needs to suffer for me. When he gets here. I need you to do your part. Now that is an incredible triumph for it. where Jesus is talking to a man and he doesn't even tell the man what to do beyond go see a man. Very interesting. Then he gets over to And and is and then and is is arguing with the Lord not long but he did I want to do it this man's crazy are you? Are you not aware of what's going on? And so he agrees. Soon as Paul gets off gets gets there he says Brother, what? What racism What brother saw when we get the heart of God, we change we don't need to step 20 step programme. They're wonderful, but you can get anyone in the foyer. And here he said, Brother Saul, the Lord that spoke to you on the road to Damascus. He says, receive your sight and like scales, instantly. They fell from Paul's eyes, changed his name. And the scripture says he immediately immediately went into the synagogue, preaching the truth because he had spirit added to that human reason. And with that, not
 
Sean Morgan  47:58
just in God did that through a man Instead of just coming down and doing it himself,
 
James Calvin Tibbs  48:02
because he's given us this authority, and we've been on authority on Sundays on YouTube, or at Katie church global, for, I don't know, about a month now, because authority is real. And when God gives it, he really doesn't take it away. So there's this concern about well, if the police have too much authority, no, that's called misuse when they kill when anyone gets killed, or anyone gets taken advantage of. That's the misuse of it. But to remove authority by itself, is to remove a principle that God put in place. Authority is the word exuviae, which translate choice, the power to choose the ability to choose, and the liberty to choose. Everyone walking the planet has a choice. And when we use those choices, right, in the four year, the start of our walk, we get to walk as far or as little as we choose to walk. God will still egg us on if you will, he'll move us you prompt us, you bring a circumstance word or person, and he's trying to get you out of the four year. He already knows you're in him. Now he's trying to help them through him in you. And it's that process that's continuous. And prayer helps to get to that point. And sometimes we get a little overboard, when we try to do for people what they should be doing for themselves, and take God's place. And then he will make sure that the frustration is is heavy enough for you to learn that lesson. I mean, I've tried to be that for people before. And he had to teach me that through pain. And I'm thankful for the lessons and so I don't, I don't have to anymore. I can love people and let them do what they feel is necessary at their various levels. But not have to encumber myself with trying to get them to do something that only they can do. So
 
Sean Morgan  49:51
always let go and let God in the end. So where can people go to get plugged into your teachings and writings
 
James Calvin Tibbs  50:00
Go to Katie church.org. And when you go there, you're going to see at least the YouTube components of what we've done in the last four months. And we're continuing to add those add to that. We're also adding a link which carries a prayer book that helps us to get that message out about praying for the president America, the Congress in the Senate, and we're adding some other links to and that's a part of that which rock is it today that we've got to put together so that more of what God has revealed, you know, can be put in those locations but for now, there's there's plenty in those in those portals.
 
Sean Morgan  50:36
Great. I will put a link to kt church.org in the description box below and people can get connected with you and your organisation. Thank you. Dr. Pastor Tibbs. great to talk to you as always.
 
James Calvin Tibbs  50:50
Same here, Sean, thank you so much for being here as always a pleasure.
 
Sean Morgan  50:54
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